Confirmed with Link: Is Glen Sather Stepping Down? [UPDATE: Yes]

[Vitto79]

Well, there goes that.

JD, come on down!

Yep , so Yzerman wanted to be a GM again I guess... then President eventually I assume

Yea JD is the true Ranger anyway

 

[RangerBoy]

Shocking. This was a done deal for a while.

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[Crease]

This is fine. Yzerman belongs in Detroit. And JD belongs in New York.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

I'm not infatuated with Yzerman like much of the rest of the league. Sure, he had some good to great trades, but overall the contracts he handed out are ones that I think could handcuff Tampa for years to come.

He went into Tampa with Kucherov and Stamkos. It's not quite the 80's Oilers, where Sather was mostly given a free ride to the championship year and year, but still, the turnaround was not so impressive.

I'd be much more satisfied with JD. More than anything, I just want JG to be given a long leash to continue implementing his vision for this team. I like most of what he's done so far and I don't want anyone to come in and alter the path.

The McD/Miller trade looks better and better with each passing day.

 

[RangerBoy]

Elliotte Friedman said he believed Yzerman would go to Detroit as president of hockey operations and hire Verbeek as the GM. It seems Yzerman still wants to be the main boss. Verbeek is apparently a candidate for the Edmonton GM job. Maybe he joins Yzerman in Detroit as an AGM or stays in Tampa.

Yzerman didn’t sign a contract extension in Tampa because he wanted to be boss of the Red Wings.

 

[Cag29]

Skjei should have learned the game playing on the bottom pairing with Girardi. Girardis legs were gone, I agree, but he could have learned Skjei alot about defending. Staal and McDonagh was there to play on the top two pairs. Sadly Gorton signed two defenders in Smith and Shattenkirk who for the most parts were 3rd pairing guys on their previous teams. Shattenkirk was a PP specialist, but played behind Pietrangelo and Parayko. Gorton messed up the rebulid/retool on the fly with those moves. That he did not see that neither of those two could play on the top pairing with McDonagh is beyond excuses. Maybe I am harsh and overplaying it, but I have no trust in Gorton after that.

I think Gorton is doing a great job. You can’t expect every single move to be a home run. But he has done very well. The prospect pool is much improved!Looking forward to see what’s next.

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[RangerBoy]

Brooks wrote Yzerman was interested in the Rangers job. Amendable to being wooed by the Rangers to succeed Glen Sather as team president.

Shannon is good buds with Sather. He tweeted Yzerman declined to be interviewed for the position with the Rangers.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Good, keep Yzerman away from this team

Let’s see him build something when he’s got no stars in Detroit

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Good, keep Yzerman away from this team

Let’s see him build something when he’s got no stars in Detroit

For all the praise Yzerman gets I think people fail to see his bad decisions.

Drafting Koekkoek and Connolly in the 1st, and all those contracts for Callahan, Miller, Killorn and Paquette it really doesn't look that great and certainly not perfect.

Still a good job by him though, but not as great as some made it out to be

 

[Ori]

The President position is less involved though in daily business, and with a new president; he should not change the direction anyway.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

For all the praise Yzerman gets I think people fail to see his bad decisions.

Drafting Koekkoek and Connolly in the 1st, and all those contracts for Callahan, Miller, Killorn and Paquette it really doesn't look that great and certainly not perfect.

Still a good job by him though, but not as great as some made it out to be

They still think he ripped the Rangers off in trades and that’ll go a long way to thinking he’s amazing

 

[JohnC]

Yzerman going back to Detroit was predicted the second he stepped down as Tampa’s GM.

This was literally the day he resigned:

 

[Edge]

Good, for Detroit.

He can help improve their drafting and turn them into the most formidable regular season team of the 2020s. Then sometime around 2028, they can take on the contracts of fading players like Nylander, Drai, and DeBrusk as they desperately try to get over the hump and close the deal.

Then he can resign from that position for family considerations, hand the mess off to the next guy, and get a consulting gig.

 

[Ghost of jas]

For all the praise Yzerman gets I think people fail to see his bad decisions.

Drafting Koekkoek and Connolly in the 1st, and all those contracts for Callahan, Miller, Killorn and Paquette it really doesn't look that great and certainly not perfect.

Still a good job by him though, but not as great as some made it out to be

Did he also take Drouin over Jones?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Did he also take Drouin over Jones?

Yeah

 

[romba]

Watch Columbus go on a tear now and JD ends up staying there. I'm mostly just happy Yzerman stayed away.

 

[Edge]

Did he also take Drouin over Jones?

Tampa's drafting department has been excellent, even with their misses.

But I also can't ignore the fact that Yzerman walked into a situation where Tampa had already selected cornerstone defenseman, and future Norris winner, Victor Hedman second overall in 2009, and franchise forward, and future two-time Rocket Richard winner, Steve Stamkos first overall in 2008.

I mean that's like someone joining the Rangers in 2021 after the team took Kakko and Lefreniere in the two preceding drafts. Even with amazing scouting, you've already got runners on second and third with no outs.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

I think Gorton is doing a great job. You can’t expect every single move to be a home run. But he has done very well. The prospect pool is much improved!Looking forward to see what’s next.

Agreed.

They still think he ripped the Rangers off in trades and that’ll go a long way to thinking he’s amazing

This is a false narrative. I've always felt that both trades were quite fair at the time they were made. And now, a few years removed, I'm quite pleased we were on the side of the trades we were on. I'd be more disappointed as a TBL fan.

Trade 1:

We gained:
St. Louis
2nd Round Pick (Traded as part of package for Yandle)
Avoidance of an albatross Callahan contract
SCF Appearance

What we lost:
Callahan
1st round pick 2014 (Josh Ho-Sang)
1st Round pick 2015 (Anthony Beauvillier)

For those of us who were too young and didn't experience 1994, going to the SCF was something I was happy to pay out the teeth for. St. Louis was integral to that run and I highly doubt we make it with Callahan in his place. Avoiding the albatross that became Callahan was another bonus. Trading the 2 firsts hurt but they ended up being late and while both players have potential, they are not game-breakers. I don't feel that our position would be significantly different if we had them.

2nd Trade:

We gained:
Namestnikov
Howden
Hajek
1st Rounder 2018 (Lundkvist)
2nd Rounder 2019 (TBD)

We lost:
McDonagh
Miller

This looks like a win. Miller had another volatile season and his contract already looks like an albatross. There are rumors that Tampa is thinking of moving him. Mcdonagh has clearly lost a step. He is on a big $, long-term contract, that very possibly could become another albatross.

We gained significant assets. Howden looks to be a quality 3rd/4th line center. Hajek showed promise and I'm ]excited for him next season. Lundkvist had a good year and is looking like he could be here soon. Those are 3 quality assets, along with Names and a potential second rounder.

The only way to dislike these trades is if you think we could have gotten more. Moving these players appears to have been the right move and in the case of Miller and Callahan has already been proven out.

 

[Edge]

Watch Columbus go on a tear now and JD ends up staying there. I'm mostly just happy Yzerman stayed away.

I'm going to go back to something I said at the onset that I can't completely rule out.

Gorton ends up becoming the next president by selling them on his vision, how they are doing things that have never been done before, and that the Rangers are poised to become a top team --- if they allow him to see this vision through.

He sells them on his familiarity with this organization, learning under the wing of the Sather, the respected staff they've put together, and the marketability this team will have with its own homegrown superstar and the money-making rivalries they will have as a result of this draft.

He emerges as "the internal candidate who rose to the occasion, despite an industry-wide search and interest from top names."

Just saying, don't rule it out. I've worked with enough corporate clients, including our beloved Rangers, to know exactly how this messaging could look.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Watch Columbus go on a tear now and JD ends up staying there. I'm mostly just happy Yzerman stayed away.

There are more than two options. Those are just the big names. Yzerman wasn't that appealing anyway. And if rumors of his ego are accurate, I'd be fearful he would completely alter the vision Gorton has been working on for 1.5 years.

We don't need someone who is going to take over. We need someone who is going to get on board with the existing plan and add their intellect and expertise to further enhance our future prospects.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

I'm going to go back to something I said at the onset that I can't completely rule out.

Gorton ends up becoming the next president by selling them on his vision, how they are doing things that have never been done before, and that the Rangers are poised to become a top team --- if they allow him to see this vision through.

He sells them on his familiarity with this organization, learning under the wing of the Sather, the respected staff they've put together, and the marketability this team will have with its own homegrown superstar and the money-making rivalries they will have as a result of this draft.

He emerges as "the internal candidate who rose to the occasion, despite an industry-wide search and interest from top names."

Just saying, don't rule it out. I've worked with enough corporate clients, including our beloved Rangers, to know exactly how this messaging could look.

I'd be perfectly fine with this and it seems like a completely legitimate pitch. But I wonder if this were to happen who they would bring in as GM. Would it be an internal candidate like Drury, or potentially a guy like Verbeek.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I'm going to go back to something I said at the onset that I can't completely rule out.

Gorton ends up becoming the next president by selling them on his vision, how they are doing things that have never been done before, and that the Rangers are poised to become a top team --- if they allow him to see this vision through.

He sells them on his familiarity with this organization, learning under the wing of the Sather, the respected staff they've put together, and the marketability this team will have with its own homegrown superstar and the money-making rivalries they will have as a result of this draft.

He emerges as "the internal candidate who rose to the occasion, despite an industry-wide search and interest from top names."

Just saying, don't rule it out. I've worked with enough corporate clients, including our beloved Rangers, to know exactly how this messaging could look.

This is what I really want to happen. Give Jeff full autonomy and make him President/GM.

 

[Edge]

I'd be perfectly fine with this and it seems like a completely legitimate pitch. But I wonder if this were to happen who they would bring in as GM. Would it be an internal candidate like Drury, or potentially a guy like Verbeek.

I think he would wear both hats.

The president role has been held by the GM before --- including both Sather and Smith.