I know that most people agree that Crosby and Ovechkin are, but is Malkin one too? I would say yes. He's always in Sid's shade, but we know how dominant he is.
The term is getting watered down. Franchise player, IMO, is a guy who's going to be the best on your franchise. Generational talent means a guy who's the best in the NHL. Not just "one of the best." It's a term we can use to separate the Gretzkies, Lemieuxs, Orrs, Howes, and even Crosbies from the rest.
Once in a generation.
People will reminisce about Malkin's talents every time the "post-lockout era" (or whatever it's called) is brought up. He's arguably the most talented player of the last 10 years, has a cup, Smythe, and other hardware to back it up.
Gonna need a heck of a lot more than that to even be mentioned in the same sentence as Gretzky Howe Orr and Lemieux
People will reminisce about Malkin's talents every time the "post-lockout era" (or whatever it's called) is brought up. He's arguably the most talented player of the last 10 years, has a cup, Smythe, and other hardware to back it up.
Guys like Tavares and Karlsson fit your definition of being franchise, but not generational
We reminisce about Sakic and Messier and Selanne too, but I don't think they're generational talents either.
I just draw the line pretty high with that phrase because I think generational players are a clear cut above their peers, even franchise players. Lemieux, Gretzky, Orr, Crosby, etc.
Yes. When he feels like it he's better than Crosby.
Yes. I will always argue Malkin is better than Crosby. I'd rather have him on my team over Crosby for sure.
Did you just mention Crosby in the same breath as Lemieux, Gretzky and Orr
while dismissing Sakic and Messier as nothing special?
Crosby is at the level of Sakic and Yzerman.
People will reminisce about Malkin's talents every time the "post-lockout era" (or whatever it's called) is brought up. He's arguably the most talented player of the last 10 years, has a cup, Smythe, and other hardware to back it up.
Guys like Tavares and Karlsson fit your definition of being franchise, but not generational