Is Connor Bedard a disappointment?

[Romang67]

This thread is a disappointment- we had this same discussion like 2 weeks ago.

OP is new, though, so it’s ok- he’s just too early in his career. Disappointing for now, I guess.

This might be a more dubious claim than the OP.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Guys like Crosby and McDavid won the Hart and Art Ross Trophies at his age. There is no comparison.

And people will bring up Nathan MacKinnon not becoming a superstar until a bit later in his career, but MacKinnon has easy size, speed and strength advantages.

Check out the supporting casts of Crosby/McDavid compared to what Bedard has

Can you tell me what Kucherov did in the NHL at 19 while you’re at it?

 

[Jabba11]

Is not even as good as the guy picked first overall a season after, and he might not be the best player in his own draft class.

And his career is already determined?


Just because your expectations and the media expectations were for him to score 120 pts in his 2nd season, now you're disappointed?

 

[notbias]

Compared to how the media hyped him up, yes.

I think most people who saw him play and didn't let the media influence their opinion, no.

He's still a great player, I just never saw the hype the media was pushing outside his shot.

I also think he will be someone who figures it out more a couple years after joining the NHL, kind of like Jack Hughes.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

He needs to continue gaining strength and to find what his game is going to be. He also needs a lot more help from the outside. The Blackhawks need to get their shit together and start icing a semi-competitive roster around him.

Foligno is a nice veteran to protect him, but I think Bedard would really benefit from having an older star player to learn from. I think Kane would've been a great mentor if he had stayed in Chicago.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

GM is a disappointment … not surrounding him with better players

 

[Giorno Giovanna]

Check out the supporting casts of Crosby/McDavid compared to what Bedard has

Can you tell me what Kucherov did in the NHL at 19 while you’re at it?

Kucherov was a second round pick. It’s a miracle that he turned out to be as good as he is.

 

[JackSlater]

Bedard is a disappointment if someone expected him to be Crosby or McDavid, and he was never going to be that. The funny part is that if he was still in junior (or the NCAA or whichever) he would be torching those leagues to crazy degrees, torching the WJC, and everyone would fantasize about him and like him more than the player he actually is, a guy not all that far from a point per game on a putrid NHL team at 19.

Anyway, it depends on expectations.

 

[PainForShane]

Look at this hater with his burner account. I've never seen anything more pathetic

 

[nbwingsfan]

Kucherov was a second round pick. It’s a miracle that he turned out to be as good as he is.

oh so you mean to tell me that players develop in non linear ways and there’s a ton of context needed? Imagine that!

You brought up Hughes earlier. Bedard blew him out of the water in his first two seasons, while playing on a vastly worse team.

Why is Hughes considered better then?

 

[Jetcetera]

I dont think it's fair to call a 19 year old a disappointment. Look at Nathan Mackinnons first few seasons.

 

[Giorno Giovanna]

oh so you mean to tell me that players develop in non linear ways and there’s a ton of context needed? Imagine that!

You brought up Hughes earlier. Bedard blew him out of the water in his first two seasons, while playing on a vastly worse team.

Why is Hughes considered better then?

Hughes is a way better skater, has better hands and also isn’t inept defensively

 

[nbwingsfan]

I guarantee you Foljgno could score 30 goals on a line with McDavid

No player on Edmonton outside of McDavid and Drasaitl are on pace for 30 goals

But sure, Foligno definitely would (he’s scored 30 once… a decade ago).

Hughes is a way better skater, has better hands and also isn’t inept defensively

So why was he so much worse his first two seasons then?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

He is overrated for sure. Great shot but lacks intensity. He's soft and small. I don't think he will have a superstar/franchise player career. I think he will be a 1C star player like a Brayden Point.

 

[Jetcetera]

Hughes is a way better skater, has better hands and also isn’t inept defensively

Bedard is a way better player at 19 than Hughes was

 

[koyvoo]

This thread is a disappointment- we had this same discussion like 2 weeks ago.

OP is new, though, so it’s ok- he’s just too early in his career. Disappointing for now, I guess.

No, the account is new to the forum. The person posting with this account is not new to the forum.

 

[Giorno Giovanna]

He is overrated for sure. Great shot but lacks intensity. He's soft and small. I don't think he will have a superstar/franchise player career. I think he will be a 1C star player like a Brayden Point.

Bedard will be lucky to be half as good as Brayden Point.

 

[PainForShane]

No, the account is new to the forum. The person posting with this account is not new to the forum.

Yep. You can tell by the way he's writing. What an embarrassment

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Bedard will be lucky to be half as good as Brayden Point.

I agree with you. To me, Brayden Point is his ceiling.

 

[Fraser28]

Bedard has definitely been worse than I expected. So yeah, disappointing. We’ll see how he looks next year. If he doesn’t take big steps forward both offensively and defensively I’ll start to really question his ceiling.

 

[Romang67]

I agree with you. To me, Brayden Point is his ceiling.

This is such a weird comparison. Is it because they're both short?

 

[Giorno Giovanna]

I agree with you. To me, Brayden Point is his ceiling.

He will be forgotten about in the future. He looks like a modern day Alexandre Daigle.

 

[independent observer]

He definitely doesn’t look like an elite superstar so far. Definitely hasn’t reached the McDavid/Crosby-level hype he had and isn’t looking like a future top 5 player. I know he’s only 19, but he hasn’t looked like a dominant player like we thought he would. He has a horrid plus/minus, is under a PPG, and hasn’t even hit the 20 goal mark, yet. He’s tied for 43rd in scoring. He’s a liability defensively and on the dot. He gets easily pushed off the puck and isn’t very fast. He’s was also left off Canada’s 4 Nations Roster and I doubt he makes the Olympic team in Milan next year. Right now, Macklin Celebrini, not Bedard, looks like the star of the future. I’m not even sure he reaches Jack Hughes-level.

Your post says it all… obviously he is a huge disappointment… for every crosby we have a couple of daigles and bedards…

 

[Mrfenn92]

Wonder who the burner account belongs to?

Sad state for this guy

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

He is under a PPG. Elite superstars don’t go under a PPG.

So is Macklin Celebrini.

Put him on any of about 25 other teams in the league and he is well over ppg.

Wait another year or two for him to grow up and for Hawks to build better around him and he will be ppg+.

If you don't want to do that, I repeat, we will take him off your hands.

Has he lived up to the hype? Probably not. could anyone have? Probably not.