Is Benoit Really... Anything?
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ULF_55
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I think everyone was aware of his limited toolbox.
Perhaps expectations were too high, or people were only seeing his physical play and thought it trumped skills.
DitchMarner
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I don't really care that he brings zero offense. The bigger issue is that he has poor puck skills. It's nice that he's willing to sacrifice the body and block shots, but maybe he wouldn't have to do it so often if he could handle and manage the puck better to begin with.
Stephen
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Benoit's pretty limited, but at the time of this writing the Leafs lost 2-1 in OT in Minnesota... so the problems with the team aren't really at the Benoit level.
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Da Mash
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Fans see a big guy who is physical and get brain washed into thinking this is what the leafs need because supposedly they get pushed around.
Then the the lack of Hockey IQ and NHL skill comes out and all of a sudden the Don Cherry blinders come off and your like wow this guy is AHL material.
Same could be said of Reaves ….they trotted out Myers too and he was lost out there.
Then the the lack of Hockey IQ and NHL skill comes out and all of a sudden the Don Cherry blinders come off and your like wow this guy is AHL material.
Same could be said of Reaves ….they trotted out Myers too and he was lost out there.
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He’s fine. He is a number 6 dman. Turning around blaming bottom pair dman, 4th lines, etc is not why the leafs are where they’re at. Look at the core and there the reason. Everything has been done to help them but instead of blaming them we gave them more money.
Stephen
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Yeah he and Timmins had some rough shifts especially with that Tavares line up front, but still, in a 1-1 regulation game, a lot of other stuff was malfunctioning ahead of him.
Not the end of the world to sit Benoit for a couple of games either. But I generally don't think he's a Problem.
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A bottom pairing defender making 1.35 a year. What exactly are you expecting? I'm wondering what the clown with the C making more money than any hockey player in the world is up to.
Commander Clueless
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Put him back with McCabe and get a new partner for OEL (Hakanpaa?)
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He’s exactly what we’re paying for
If you wanted a better skilled puck mover, that is the guy we just ran out of town
If you wanted a better skilled puck mover, that is the guy we just ran out of town
He’s a 3rd pairing / depth defensive dman. He always was. Nobody should expect more.
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SHANNYPLAN
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He’s a 3rd pair dman. Why do we always need a whipping boy?
He’s a physical third pairing player. He can defend perfectly well at the NHL level and can crush dudes. I’d take him over the Dermott/Carrick/Corrado/Timmins of the world 10 times out of 10. Stanley Cup champion Zach Bogosian was on the winning team tonight, these types of guys are role players on winners.
Common f***** sense we had balance in our pairs with left and right shots and we went with what clearly hasn’t been working all year Timmins has been better than him even though he’s raw that’s concerning
I’m rough on Timmins but this season that’s alie he’s been the weakest link for us on d all year
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I don't think it's ridiculous that he takes nights off here and there if Hakanpää is in the mix and effective. There is a lot of redundancy in their skillsets, and ideally Hakanpää is the better player.
I also wouldn't mind eventually seeing Rifai at least get the opportunity to challenge for the role of third pair left-handed option - he plays with an edge too and does a lot of things better.
I don't think Benoit is enough of an issue or paid enough to be a major whipping boy, but also doesn't have to be a guy who plays every game like he has to this point.
I also wouldn't mind eventually seeing Rifai at least get the opportunity to challenge for the role of third pair left-handed option - he plays with an edge too and does a lot of things better.
I don't think Benoit is enough of an issue or paid enough to be a major whipping boy, but also doesn't have to be a guy who plays every game like he has to this point.
Jimmy Firecracker
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We’ll see how it all shakes out but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him on the outside looking in once Hakanpaa starts up. Rifai should also be thought of as an option to potentially surpass him too.
In general the bottom pairing just needs to be better. They’ve shown flashes, Timmins more than Benoit, but overall it’s been a weak point. Anything and everything needs to be on the table to improve it, even if it comes at the cost of our favourite Frenchman.
In general the bottom pairing just needs to be better. They’ve shown flashes, Timmins more than Benoit, but overall it’s been a weak point. Anything and everything needs to be on the table to improve it, even if it comes at the cost of our favourite Frenchman.
notdoneyet
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Only in leaf land can posters blame our 5/6 dman for the terrible play of our team. He is fine for his cost and skill set.
Blame our two highest paid players for their abysmal performance. Willy scores a goal and then disappears for the rest of the game. Matthews hasn’t made a difference in a single game this year. Imagine paying him that much money for that pathetic display of poor play.
Put the blame squarely where it belongs
Blame our two highest paid players for their abysmal performance. Willy scores a goal and then disappears for the rest of the game. Matthews hasn’t made a difference in a single game this year. Imagine paying him that much money for that pathetic display of poor play.
Put the blame squarely where it belongs
Dreakmur
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Could see this coming a mile away when reading the thread about Benoit's ceiling over the summer.
ChurchOfMatthews
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You spelled "played himself out of a job in Toronto" wrong.
He has to play to play himself out
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