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Darryl Sittler in the Hall of Fame says it all . Barely won a playoff game , a joke.
Is Barkov overrated?
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He is Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe Lemieux and Gretzky combined in one single person and has shut down every one he has ever faced, how on earth can such a player be overrated ?
At least until next year when Florida is eliminated early - then he plain out sucks ...
At least until next year when Florida is eliminated early - then he plain out sucks ...
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Well put on a list of C’s ahead of him and who are clearly?
Or are you just going to keep laughing without bringing anything into conversation?
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You have to pay a bit more attention to appreciate the impact of two way players like Barkov/Kopitar/Bergeron (or really, most defensive minded players) because there aren't individual stats to gauge a players defensive stats.
In that sense, players like him will always be a bit underrated.
However, I do agree he is getting a bit overrated in the sense that the spotlight is on him right now, and recency bias is contributing to a lot of opinions that would have probably been laughed at just a year or two ago. Certain narratives are also being built around him that are half truths, but don't really tell the whole story like "Barkov shut down all these players" Well yes he's obviously a huge part of it, and maybe the most important. But also, he's basically always playing with top tier defensive players in their respective positions (Reinhart, Forsling) alongside a great defensive system that the entire team has bought into.
In that sense, players like him will always be a bit underrated.
However, I do agree he is getting a bit overrated in the sense that the spotlight is on him right now, and recency bias is contributing to a lot of opinions that would have probably been laughed at just a year or two ago. Certain narratives are also being built around him that are half truths, but don't really tell the whole story like "Barkov shut down all these players" Well yes he's obviously a huge part of it, and maybe the most important. But also, he's basically always playing with top tier defensive players in their respective positions (Reinhart, Forsling) alongside a great defensive system that the entire team has bought into.
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As the seemingly perennial winner of the most underrated player in the NHL, I'd say on average he's fairly rated.
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The problem with being the perceived “best” is that at any turn of your career, if you have a stretch where eyeballs are on you and you are not clearly in that moment “the best”, it is used as ammunition to prove that you aren’t. Some people hold McDavid (and perhaps select others like MacK) to the standard of “well, if he’s the best, he has to be the best every single time I watch him in every series or else that proves he’s not the best”. Which is an insane and unfair proposition.
Barkov probably has been underrated and I have time for the argument of him being a top 5 center for sure…I mentioned earlier I can’t deny what I am seeing in this moment and would have him as high as third and certainly in that top 5 range.
But he has also underwhelmed in the post-season before, notably in 21-22, and was not exactly known as a superstar who grabbed the post-season by the throat until this awesome run. But because we weigh so heavily what we see in front of us right now, we can tend to isolate stretches of play to make our point weigh more heavily which I think is happening with Barkov right now. We can admit he’s been brilliant, and has been great for some time…while also acknowledging the top group of centers in the league is just outrageously good at the moment and that resume and preferences come into play as well.
Barkov probably has been underrated and I have time for the argument of him being a top 5 center for sure…I mentioned earlier I can’t deny what I am seeing in this moment and would have him as high as third and certainly in that top 5 range.
But he has also underwhelmed in the post-season before, notably in 21-22, and was not exactly known as a superstar who grabbed the post-season by the throat until this awesome run. But because we weigh so heavily what we see in front of us right now, we can tend to isolate stretches of play to make our point weigh more heavily which I think is happening with Barkov right now. We can admit he’s been brilliant, and has been great for some time…while also acknowledging the top group of centers in the league is just outrageously good at the moment and that resume and preferences come into play as well.
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Like Toews before him, people are allergic to appreciating a dominant shut down 1C. There’s tremendous value to his effectiveness and play style. He’s more valuable than Matthews but not as talented as McDrai or MacKinnon
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except Toews played in front of Antti Niemi and Barkov plays in front of Sergei Bobrovksy
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HF boards is forever perplexed by the concept of overrated and underrated.
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Says someone who’s out of arguments
Congrats mate
I wonder if they had something else also on that roster
Like borderline generational top4 lead by Keith
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a borderline generational top4? definitely not, but are you implying that Barkov > Toews?
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Everyone knows your agenda
You keep going on and on about Bob saving Barkov and when you bring up Toews as comp ”surprisingly” you left out the top4 of:
Keith- Seabrook
Odyua- Hjalmarsson
He played in front of and bring up Niemi
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Agenda? Just calling it like I see it, same as everyone else. Barkov is very fairly a top 7C in the league with a real case for #5. Bob's sv% on HDSC this series has been insane and clearly the reason why Florida is up. The numbers are what they are. Not sure why that's so offensive.
And what, Barkov > Toews?
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Your inability to admit Barkov exists outside this one series is what you're getting rightfully pinata'ed for as you're continually showing how little you know about him other than your forced viewings this week.
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Raccoon Jesus
Draft em but don't play em
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"Barkov is overrated because Bobrovsky has had 3 great games" is one of the dumbest things I've seen on this forum. There, wrote it in crayon for you.
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McDavid, Mackinnon, and Eichel are the only 3 guys I would consider taking over Barkov as my 1C for a playoff run.
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