Rumor: Irfaan Gaffar (Fourth Period) " Where there's smoke there's fire, NJD still very very much interested in JT Miller"

[Bettman Returnz]

if jt millers age isnt a big deal why dont the canucks just keep him and re-sign him when he is superior to everyone else they need to sign long term?

Sure, If we get the sense he’d actually resign and for a fair term/$, we will… all signs pointing to him wanting to go back to US to play out his career.

 

[Mergatroidskittle]

Vancouver media doing all they can to help rebuild the Canucks.

Classic hurt hf user. Not a fan of the rumours surrounding my team so find any excuse lol

 

[Guttersniped]

Another misconception I've seen is people say JT is nearly 30. I saw someone call him 30. I mean, he'll turn 30 by the playoffs next year, but people have been mentioning how old he is for like a year, I guess to try to lower his trade value in real life (?). I guess every player over 25 is nearly 30. But if someone is playing great hockey I don't really care how old they are.

JT Miller came to Vancouver at 26, and he got way better. He is a classic late bloomer. He played his 26 y/o season and 27 y/o season, both of which were on another level from his play with Tampa Bay. This season was his 28 y/o season, and he took another step forward, reaching an even higher level, putting up 100 points. Again, this was his 28 y/o season. Next season will be his 29 y/o season. He is a late bloomer, who's just reached his prime, but because of circumstances, is being massively undervalued. He's still being valued as a 50-60 point defensive forward, because before Vancouver, that's what he was. If he has another good year next year, I'm predicting his trade value is going to take a massive leap, from a 50 point forward to the kind of player that is very hard to trade for.

His mythical contract extension, which everyone keeps pushing as a big selling point, would start in 2023-24.

Miller will be 30 when that starts.

 

[strattonius]

Miller will be good for another 4 seasons and then there will likely be a drop off. Meaning 3 years in to an extension is your prime years. A GM will want him for 5-6 yrs and frontload the contract so its an easy buy out in the latter years.

That's basically why the Canucks are trying to move him as their competitive window isn't all that clear at the moment. Our defense needs to sort itself out before Miller is taking this team on a Cup run.

New Jersey doesn't really strike me as a team looking to burn assets on Miller. They aren't proven...they suck worse than Vancouver. All these young players with potential still have to start winning. I think a more realistic team would be Boston or Washington - competitive teams looking to transition to an established forward on their top line. A Backstrom and Bergeron replacement is what I'd be thinking given the age of those players.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Classic hurt hf user. Not a fan of the rumours surrounding my team so find any excuse lol

The only people getting upset here are the ones who think these rumors are real and are dealing with rejection.

 

[Hockey Gamer]

Miller will be good for another 4 seasons and then there will likely be a drop off. Meaning 3 years in to an extension is your prime years. A GM will want him for 5-6 yrs and frontload the contract so its an easy buy out in the latter years.

That's basically why the Canucks are trying to move him as their competitive window isn't all that clear at the moment. Our defense needs to sort itself out before Miller is taking this team on a Cup run.

New Jersey doesn't really strike me as a team looking to burn assets on Miller. They aren't proven...they suck worse than Vancouver. All these young players with potential still have to start winning. I think a more realistic team would be Boston or Washington - competitive teams looking to transition to an established forward on their top line. A Backstrom and Bergeron replacement is what I'd be thinking given the age of those players.

true, good point. i think those teams make a lot of sense. props.

 

[Cogburn]

Just for fun Three way trade

To Vancouver:
2nd overall
Wood/Zacha
Nikita Zaitsev
BOS 3rd 2022

To New Jersey:
7th overall
JT Miller

To Ottawa:
Connor Garland
Tyler Myers

If we got Ottawa's first and Zaitsev for Garland and Myers, we would cut out trade streak there. The difference between 2 and 7 is tiny compared to the difference between Zacha or Wood and Miller.

 

[TryamkinPleaseReturn]

His mythical contract extension, which everyone keeps pushing as a big selling point, would start in 2023-24.

Miller will be 30 when that starts.

Yeah... 2 seasons from now. It's not such a difficult thing for a professional management team to sign an extension by then.

 

[Guttersniped]

Yeah... 2 seasons from now. It's not such a difficult thing for a professional management team to sign an extension by then.

Huh?

People (well, mostly Vancouver fans) are insisting Miller will come with an extension at the time of the trade, even if it happens before he can actually signs it.

He won’t, but that’s what the “selling point” part is about.

If he signs an extension two seasons from now, then it might not be with the team that traded for him.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Even if JT regresses back to a 70ish point player, he is the exact type of wing you'd want with Hughes and Sharangovich/ Bratt/ Mercer/ Holtz. I think if he came here we could convince him to stay, but even if not, I'd still do the deal. Would Van consider adding Jett Woo? What's his stock look like?

Would prefer having Miller INSTEAD of smallish one dimensional players like Bratt and some of the others. The thought that Jesper is going to be paid in the neighborhood of $7 m and that the combination of him, Hughes, and Hamilton will be making in the neighborhood of $20 M with little likelihood that the team will be any closer to the playoffs is discouraging.