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In case anyone still thinks McDavid isn’t a great playoff performer, know this.

bleedthenorth said:
This could be argued until he won the Conn Smythe last year
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Second skater to ever win the Conn Smythe as a member of the losing team in the finals, and well deserved in my opinion. Sixth all time to do it including goaltenders. Last one to do it was Giguere for Anaheim in 2003, and the only other skater to do it was Reggie Leach in 1976.

For reference, Reggie Leach scored 24 points (19 goals, 5 assists) in 16 playoff games in 1976.
 
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He should have a lot of points. Not many teams have their top guys play half the game for the past few seasons and don't trust their depth.

Edmonton fans love to shit on their depth until they start winning. Now they claim they have some of the best depth. Like I said, depth is good for any team when succeeding. It sucks when the team doesn't. Fans can't make up their mind.
 
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WiLBoY said:
He should have a lot of points. Not many teams have their top guys play half the game for the past few seasons and don't trust their depth.

Edmonton fans love to shit on their depth until they start winning. Now they claim they have some of the best depth. Like I said, depth is good for any team when succeeding. It sucks when the team doesn't. Fans can't make up their mind.
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It has nothing to do with “Edmonton fans.” Depth scoring is objective. The Oilers are objectively getting depth scoring right now and they weren’t before. This can stand true for any team.

Not complicated.
 
edevils said:
That's fair.

So what's the solution? Does he continue to be the victim of a sub-championship organization? Oilers management failed to build a championship team around him. That's what I keep reading anyway.

Either he stays and suffers under failing management or he leaves and breaks the hearts of all his fans. Both of these options suck. Maybe he'll sign elsewhere.

The best solution for McDavid, the Oilers, the fans, and the league would be for him to win a championship this year.
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Well I am an Oilers fan so I hope they win the Cup, but I definitely recognize holes they have in their lineup that teams typically never have when winning a Cup, so McDavid will have to overcome those this season to win a Cup with the Oilers. Their forward depth looks better than in past seasons, so that is a positive.
 
edevils said:
So players have no effect in the locker room or at practices or on flights back or in the video room, or team chemistry or morale.

Players have no bearing on their team besides the 20 minutes they're on the ice.

RIGHT? This is essentially what you're saying?

Players dissappear except for the 20 minutes a night they play. Got it. Thanks for this gem.
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Where is your proof that McDavid has a negative or limited impact in anything you just said? Is a nice speech in the team shower going to help Skinner stop pucks?

Does that mean MacKinnon and Crosby were terrible teammates in the seasons they didn’t win the cup? They were mean on the team flight?

What the hell are you going in about? .laugh:
 
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PuckG said:
It has nothing to do with “Edmonton fans.” Depth scoring is objective. The Oilers are objectively getting depth scoring right now and they weren’t before.

Not complicated.
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It isn't. You either have depth players or you don't. Not because they suddenly score a few points and now you have the best depth in the league. That's not how it works.

You can't claim your entire depth is ahl quality and suddenly after a few games you have the best depth in the league.

Watch when edmonton starts losing again and edm fans claim they have no one but mcdrai again
 
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landy said:
That specific game, he deserves criticism for coasting for 3 goals against. Unreal offense, zero defense.
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Coasting for three goals? :laugh: I guess we’re just making stuff up now?

BTW MacKinnon was -2 last game 7…. But I’m assuming none of that was his fault, right?

Bro just admit McDavid is abetter player than MacKinnon. It’s not close, it’s never really been close.
 
WiLBoY said:
It isn't. You either have depth players or you don't. Not because they suddenly score a few points and now you have the best depth in the league. That's not how it works.

You can't claim your entire depth is ahl quality and suddenly after a few games you have the best depth in the league.

Watch when edmonton starts losing again and edm fans claim they have no one but mcdrai again
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The thing is, you don't even know what you're talking about. It's clear you're parroting old narratives and have no idea how Edmonton's depth has changed so drastically since Game 82.
 
WiLBoY said:
It isn't. You either have depth players or you don't. Not because they suddenly score a few points and now you have the best depth in the league. That's not how it works.

You can't claim your entire depth is ahl quality and suddenly after a few games you have the best depth in the league.

Watch when edmonton starts losing again and edm fans claim they have no one but mcdrai again
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The same depth players that showed up in the playoffs last year are showing up now.

Not sure what is confusing. When depth players aren’t providing depth, there is uncertainty and fans are unhappy. When they are, the team has success and fans are happy.

You’re not making any relevant point aside from pointing out Oilers fans, but this absolutely insane phenomenon that you just discovered applies across every team and fanbase.
 
bleedthenorth said:
The thing is, you don't even know what you're talking about. It's clear you're parroting old narratives and have no idea how Edmonton's depth has changed so drastically since Game 82.
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Oh really? You must not have read EDM threads during game 1 and 2 of the 1st series vs LA.
 
PuckG said:
The same depth players that showed up in the playoffs last year are showing up now.

Not sure what is confusing. When depth players aren’t providing depth, there is uncertainty and fans are unhappy. When they are, the team has success and fans are happy.

You’re not making any relevant point aside from pointing out Oilers fans, but this absolutely insane phenomenon that you just discovered applies across every team and fanbase.
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That's exactly what I said
 
He set the NHL record for most assists last year in the playoffs…who the hell doesn’t think he’s a great playoff performer?
 
Oilslick941611 said:
his logic is flawed.

He gives props to MacKinnon for having 7 goals in game 7's but Mackinnon has never won a game 7. Then he calls McDavid a loser for not winning a cup.

So Mackinnon getting 7 goals in game 7's = great according to him, but the team still loses then he argues that McDavid putting up points but not winning a cup makes him a loser.

I am confused here.

All he's shown is that one player can't do it all by themselves.
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agree with your point here but MacKinnon has scored 1 goal in all of his game 7’s combined not 7.
Edit: already corrected
 
WiLBoY said:
That's exactly what I said
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Right so you’re just here to go “OiLeRs fans.” At least post with some substance.

I’m sure you’re also going through each thread and calling out other fanbases for flipping back and forth on LA’s depth too right? Especially after all those fanbase were shitting on the Oilers before game 3.
 
PuckG said:
Right so you’re just here to go “OiLeRs fans.” At least post with some substance.

I’m sure you’re also going through each thread and calling out other fanbases for flipping back and forth on LA’s depth too right? Especially after all those fanbase were shitting on the Oilers before game 3.
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I shit on my own teams fans too. I don't see what the issue is when ppl can't make up their minds whether a player is good or bad. To claim you have no depth to having the best depth is laughable.
 
WiLBoY said:
It isn't. You either have depth players or you don't. Not because they suddenly score a few points and now you have the best depth in the league. That's not how it works.

You can't claim your entire depth is ahl quality and suddenly after a few games you have the best depth in the league.

Watch when edmonton starts losing again and edm fans claim they have no one but mcdrai again
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The oilers didn’t have their full forward lineup until the playoffs started. Evander Kane never played at all this season and Frederic played 7 mins in the season since being picked up at the deadline.
 
WiLBoY said:
I shit on my own teams fans too. I don't see what the issue is when ppl can't make up their minds whether a player is good or bad. To claim you have no depth to having the best depth is laughable.
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Making your own argument that no Oilers fans have made and then being outraged by it is certainly something.

The depth is showing up right now. Not sure what’s confusing about it.
 
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outside of 2022 (which was definitely an all time great performance with the best of them) I feel everytime I watch it's mostly empty calorie points in an era where the playoff games are less physical than preseason games in the past
 
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landy said:
As will MacKinnon/Makar. I wish they had the Pacific to beat up and start trying in the WCF, but McDavid may have challenges finally when he goes to the Atlantic.

Were not talknig about Pat Maroon here.
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As if COL had a chance against LA.
Oilers will sleep-walk past Dallas again
 
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