Are you all forgetting that Diaz is supposed to be back in the lineup on Saturday? Getting him back will help out Markov a lot and we'll go back to just having Bouillon and Drewiske on the 3rd pairing.
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Are you all forgetting that Diaz is supposed to be back in the lineup on Saturday? Getting him back will help out Markov a lot and we'll go back to just having Bouillon and Drewiske on the 3rd pairing.
Bring up Tinordi. At least he has some size and knows how to throw a hit- something missing since Emelin blew up his knee. Give the young guys some playing time and bring some size and speed to the blueline as Markov seems worn out lately. The D couldn't play any worse with Tinordi and Beaulieu in the lineup, could it? If the playoffs are supposed to be a 4-5 game out for the Habs why not get the young guns some experience at the highest level and build from it for the next season?
I'd rather watch the future blueliners play than watch Bouillon and Gorges look lost for 3 periods.
I'd rather watch the future blueliners play than watch Bouillon and Gorges look lost for 3 periods.
It seems you have been paying attention purely to boxscores rather than watching the games re: Clowe vs. Brassard. Even so, you left out the fact that Clowe has more goals, shots and hits than Brassard. See? It's easy to swing a few stats to support your argument so "CLEARLY", but the fact is on the ice Clowe has had a bigger impact and anyone that has watched the games would agree.
Re: the comparisons, if it was not obvious to you already, we were looking at forwards. Like I've said, I believe we can stand toe-to-toe on defense and in net vs playoff teams, but are lackluster up front. The list serves to support that with our number of comparison being zero, not two.
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Habs failing another test against a good team. Haven't beaten a good non-Bruins team in a month, and you could argue the Isles were not a 'good team' at the time as they hadn't caught fire.
Going to be a very short 1st round for this team unless the team they face loses a key player to injury.
Going to be a very short 1st round for this team unless the team they face loses a key player to injury.
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While we are clearly slumping, it's still a bad time to slump.
But you have to worry about our goaltending.
Some of us have been saying/thinking this since the 6-0 fiasco (Toronto).
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LeMAD
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Don't put Bouillon in the same sentence as Desharnais please.
Those are the guys who have to wake up quickly after an awful season:
Markov-Desharnais-Moen-Price
Now, I start to be very worried. I'm less concerned about 3-4 losses than the way we have lost. Tonight is the 4th blow-outs in the last 5 games. And we have to thank the posts on the win vs Tampa Bay.
Now I'm afraid that Price is losing his confidence. That is catastrophic coming playoff time.
Now I'm afraid that Price is losing his confidence. That is catastrophic coming playoff time.
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Price already lost his confidence. This team's confidence starts at the back. With a terribly shaky goalie, the defense becomes tentative and everything crumbles.
Thank god I didn't watch last night's game. Saw the highlight and Price was crappy. No excuse. We can stop sugarcoating it. He was crappy. Period.
I think I begin to lose hope with Price. Out of the blue, he just starts stinking. I don't get it. Maybe he's relatively weak mentality. Let's hope I'm wrong.
Lines at practice:
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Ryder
Moen-Halpern-Blunden
Prust-Dumont-Armstrong
Markov-Subban
Gorges-Diaz
Bouillon-Weber
Drewiske-Kaberle
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Therrien wants to play Markov-Subban 40 minutes a game
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Ryder
Moen-Halpern-Blunden
Prust-Dumont-Armstrong
Markov-Subban
Gorges-Diaz
Bouillon-Weber
Drewiske-Kaberle
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Therrien wants to play Markov-Subban 40 minutes a game
Price for Cagary's first round pick, please. And his dear friend Gorges can go with him as a bonus.
Lines at practice:
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Ryder
Moen-Halpern-Blunden
Prust-Dumont-Armstrong
Markov-Subban
Gorges-Diaz
Bouillon-Weber
Drewiske-Kaberle
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Therrien wants to play Markov-Subban 40 minutes a game
Prust on the 5th line ? Or is it really next game 4th line ?
29dryden29
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4 and out come playoffs boys. This team is not much better than last years. Poor Prust has to wonder what the hell he got himself into.
sheed36
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Sad but true it's starting to look like. Pretty mindboggling how the Habs can go from being very competitive in most games to getting embarrassed in 4 of their last 5 games. Even worse is after getting embarrassed you usually expect the team to come out and play very hard the next game but they come out the same lackluster way again.
This year is starting to look like 2009 when the Habs backed into the playoffs losing 4 in a row and were then swept by the Bruins in round 1.
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Not concerned based on the fact that most people are frankly surprised by the how that season turned out to be. And not surprised as this is not your typical season. People underestimate how the fatigue factor played a whole lot, whether it's for teams we faced, or our own team. We never really knew the value of it. We will have a better idea in the playoffs has EVERY team works with the same schedule. And will have a better idea next year as well. A 2nd season with Therrien...just that is already a bigger challenge. More pressure on Price, if that's possible. And, I would hope, some changes to add a greater grit factor to our team to stop being ridiculized. The concerns needs to start in year 2 or 3 of Bergevin if we don't see any improvement. Until then...frankly, everything is on schedule. And we could even put the fact that we've done much better than anticipated in the great news column. Still tons of things missing on that team. That was, I believe, hidden by a record that was falsified by a freakin strange and tough calendar. Next year will confirm the real value of our team.
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Has sucking on purpose after clinching a playoff spot (but before the playoffs) worked for teams other than the 1993 Habs?
By the look of things, they aren't sucking on purpose. Not only are they losing but they are getting blown out with no end in sight. They cracked. It takes a long time to recover from that and they don't have that kind of time.
So I'm not expecting anything from the playoffs but losing games. I hope I'm wrong but this sort of unraveling is impossible to overcome.
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Yea, after that 6-0 blowout in Toronto it only took... ONE GAME to recover from that fatal loss, after which we proceeded to go on our best points streak in the entire season.
Posters are whining in this thread because they can't handle a little adversity. It makes me wonder how many of you actually watch hockey outside the Habs. Going into a slump after clinching the playoffs is actually pretty common. You can blame the blowouts on multiple factors, mainly being finally clinching the playoffs, losing Emelin, and Price getting new equipment.
After last season, I would've thought some of you were used to losing. This is a pathetic display, and I hope if the Habs succeed in the playoffs that you don't act like you had any confidence in them... because you clearly displayed in this thread that none of you do. You are the kind of fans that can only remember the last 3 games, and not an entire season. Pathetic.
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Because of that bad stretch, They'll go into the pos as underdogs again though. And it's always a good thing. They have a chance to start the pos like they started the season, as the underdogs that they were then. You look at how they played during the season and I just can't picture them as a dominant team. They are better at the "against the odds" game, which wil fit them perfectly when they'll win game 1 vs whoever they play against.
There is a difference between one blowout and a string of blowouts.
For the whining part, believe me, I'm on your side. I love this franchise, I don't think the losses are the affair of a single individual or two. I don't believe I'm whining when I can only be honest with what I believe is happening.
Furthermore, it's my belief that to overcome a string of blown outs, you need a few things that we won't get: a stretch of games against poor teams, a long break between games(normal schedule can provide those) and infusion of new blood(call up, trade, playing your backup on consecutive games(3-4).
These types of events sort of provide a brake in the day to day routine. You can hope to see these things happen when you have time left in the season. We have three games left...
Again I can assure you that I will root hard for the Habs and I won't miss a single second of the games left. I'm often wrong by the way so there's always that.
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Sorry if my post came across as being directed at you, it was only for the first line that I quoted you. I'm just kind of sick of the mindless negativity in this thread. I feel like many fans in this thread only look at the boxscore after games, or don't know much about hockey in general.
While I agree that blowouts stringed together are not normal, it is still a slump and the timing of it is not just a coincidence. We will see how they react in the last couple of games in the season. If they get blown out in all three, there is definitely reason to be worried. But I tend to look at it as they want to make sure they are healthy above all for the playoffs, and they didn't view those games as must-win, so kind of subconsciously toned it down a bit.
I definitely didn't mean to imply you were whining, it was more directed at some other posters in here. I'm glad you are excited for the playoffs, and I maintain my mindset that this is merely a slump, as harsh as it seems, and hope you are wrong about what is required to bounce back!
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