Value of: Igor Shesterkin

[Savant]

Give it a week and Rangers fans will change their mind.

He is just the current kicking boy, taking DJ ZBads spot temporarily.

That’s not what’s happening.

What’s happening is the Rangers need to blow it up and start over, so there is no reason to have an 11.5m goalie on the roster.

They just should not have re-signed him because it didn’t make sense with everything else they are doing where they are just making trades to dump cap.

Igor isn’t a kicking boy, it’s just demonstrably bad asset management; which is not Igor’s fault

 

[Just Linda]

11.6 centre from Vancouver for 11.5 goalie from NYR?

But wait, now Vancouver has too many goalies. Those in Demko for Trochek, Demko is injured all the time anyways.

EP + Demko

For Shesterkin + Trochek

And now everyone gets to be equally mad.

 

[Guitpik]

Please don't! We can't give him any more crazy ideas

It was already his crazy idea.

 

[Andre Palot]

Nobody is touching that contract.

Any team who needs goaltending should be, without question, buying low if the Rangers are stupid enough to bite. What if this is an outlier year? Then he goes back to being a top two, top three NHL goaltender?

The Rangers would be ridiculous to even consider trading Igor. However, it's the Rangers so if any franchise would...

 

[go4hockey]

Going for a bit of humor.

Learn from Bern

You had a bad teacher.

 

[LBpuzzels]

There are probably multiple teams that would trade for a UFA to be Igor and sign him to that exact extension so if the Rangers wanted to move him, i am sure they could, while getting positive asset(s) in return but the only reason to trade him would be to get rid of the long term in order to better tank, so the asset would not be the important part.

I didn't like the contract they signed and in many ways that has been the cause of the turmoil of the team. (Having to move out beloved veterans in order to open up cap space for his contract.) But trading him now is probably not the best asset management.
On the flip side though, you should not double down on something you think is a mistake.

 

[5cotland]

Shesty is the best goalie in the league and has earned his payday.

After 1 season, the salary cap increase will exceed his cap hit from now anyway.

Bobrovsky's contract is 6 years in and the salary cap has only increased by $6.5m, that's $3.5m less than his cap hit. It will take years to exceed his contract.

It will take 8 years for the salary cap increase to exceed Carey Price's cap hit.

I understand COVID is a big factor in these

 

[Master P]

Shesty is the best goalie in the league

Incorrect, that honor currently goes to Hellebuyck.

 

[Savant]

Incorrect, that honor currently goes to Hellebuyck.

Until the playoffs start

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Bobrovsky?

It’s not an easy compatible to anyone tbh.
Shesty is to 3-5 at his position every year, with any/every year he can’t be the best goalie in the game. He’ll likely be that way for the next 4-5 years, maybe a bit longer.
NYR have been spoiled going from Hank right to shesty.
Between the pipes, we’ve been blessed for many seasons now and it’s not been an issue, but excellent goal tending has become the norm/expected every game. Most teams can’t say or expect that from the goalies.
Hank didn’t see a decline is athleticism or skill until age 34, that’s my bench mark, I’d wager shesty is amazing til 34-35. He’s the better athlete, never really had a heavy workload in the KHL, didn’t become a NHL starter until 23-24…..
The miles are low on this model sports car ……lol..
I don’t think he’s overpaid for what he brings. With a solid team in front of him, he can steal games on any given night and has proven he can win big playoff games/series and play in NY……
Some guys just can’t hack it here for whatever reason but are good elsewhere.
He thrives on the big stage/spotlight.
You can argue the length of the deal is too long, but almost every deal guys sign now when they sign their( forever/last major ) is. Whether it be RFA/UFA whatever.
Can you imagine him playing in front of a team like EDM or Col etc?
A team that can score at will and play a competent D scheme???
They can go back to back or for 3 cups in a row, which is unheard of nowadays.

It's pretty much impossible for a team built like Edmonton & Colorado to be in a cap position to add a 12m goalie though.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

His NMC doesnt kick in until after this season and itd be a totally cut throat thing to trade him however if he were to be moved with 8 X $11.5 what would the value be?

Not too good. That's a lot money.

 

[Savant]

Not too good. That's a lot money.

I mean yes and no. If you were acquiring him as a rental and trying to re-sign him, you’d have to be prepared for to shell that money out; so teams can’t exactly play dumb or cry poor. I’m sure they will, but I don’t think it’s a super legitimate argument. You may lose the teams that only wanted him for the playoff run but if there is a goalie desperate team/team with weird situation, then you never know. I don’t think it’s a mega package, but I don’t think it’s a deterrent necessarily either. And I certainly don’t think the Rangers would be retaining; that kind of ruins the point anyway.

I don’t think anything happens, but if you did think you look at the teams in the no state income tax states, (because those are the teams that can have a big goalie contract and still build) and I think you look at Vancouver if Vancouver doesn’t want to roll the dice on Demko’s (especially long term) health. And Vancouver obviously have big contracts they can send back the other way

I don’t think there are like a ton of teams that make sense, but they’ll be a deal out there if the Rangers want to make one

 

[n8]

Ok, cra,y idea!!!!

Shesty
Trocheck
NYR 2026 1st
Jones
Vaakanainen

for

Byfield
Helenius
Clarke
+ LD prospect Jakub Dvorak

Do not lie. Bern posted this somewhere, didn't he.

 

[Bender]

Except its not. The new contract was signed 12 days after the trade. The only sign and trade in the history of the NHL was Tkachuk.

The Senators signed Hossa to a 3 year contract and then traded him to Atlanta for Dany Heatley later that day.

Heatley traded to Sens for Hossa

The Atlanta Thrashers traded former NHL rookie of the year Dany Heatley to the Ottawa Senators for Marian Hossa on Tuesday, a blockbuster deal involving two high-scoring right wingers.

www.espn.com

 

[sandwichbird2023]

It's pretty much impossible for a team built like Edmonton & Colorado to be in a cap position to add a 12m goalie though.

If the Rangers are willing to take back Nurse + S. Skinner as part of the deal, it could be possible.

Of course if the Rangers do that they are essentially commited to rebuilding, and the Oilers have to add a bunch of picks and prospects. Not sure either side is willing. But cap wise, it could work.

 

[ViD]

Shesterkin

For

Merzlikins
Minnesota 1st


I think Columbus is ready for another Russian Vezina winning goalie

 

[FSL KINGS]

Do not lie. Bern posted this somewhere, didn't he.

Of course not. The proposal would be much more in depth with cap hits, the impact of salary cap rise covering Shesty's new contract. Then a rational for how both teams improve.

 

[dgibb10]

Except its not. The new contract was signed 12 days after the trade. The only sign and trade in the history of the NHL was Tkachuk.

Damon Severson*

At least the only one where the team that signed the contract mattered. Sevo had to come with a contract signed by NJD in order to get 8 years.