If you had the 23rd pick who would you select the Rangers to draft ?

If you had the 23rd pick who would you select the Rangers to draft ?

  • Gavin Brindley

    Votes: 7 10.9%
  • Quenton Musty

    Votes: 6 9.4%
  • Gracyn Sawchyn

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Calum Ritchie

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Axel Sandin Pelikka

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Colby Barlow

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Gabe Perrault

    Votes: 12 18.8%
  • Andrew Cristall

    Votes: 5 7.8%
  • Riley Heidt

    Votes: 3 4.7%
  • Daniel But

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Eduard Sale

    Votes: 5 7.8%
  • Nate Danielson

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • Jayden Perron

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ethan Gauthier

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Tom Wilander

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Brayden Yager

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • Mathew Wood

    Votes: 5 7.8%
  • Tanner Adams

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Samuel Honzek

    Votes: 9 14.1%

  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .
I would take But, Barlow or Perrault, but I doubt any of those guys is available at 23.

Want nothing to do with Sale, Adams, Cristall or Heidt
 
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I wouldn't expect Danielson, Yager, Honzek, Musty, Sandin-Pelikkka, Wood, Willander, Barlow or Perreault to be available. Cristall and Ritchie are two others who might not.
 
This is the first draft in a while i don't know a lot of the kids in it, I'm starting to age out lol. Hopefully its a LD, RW or some sort of fiesty player that can score.
 
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So if Brandon Point or Ryan Callahan type was projected as a 1st round pick, you rather take a player that is bigger but cant move as quick or relentless on chasing the puck. Work ethic and will sometimes overcomes their lack of size. Worth the risk in my opinion.
Are we saying he’s going to be Brayden Point? I’d really have to believe a guy has high end talent to take him that high at that size. The problem is the likelihood of success. If you draft a kid who’s 5’8 and slight and he’s not a slam dunk top 6 forward then you most likely flat missed on a potential player. That kid who’s 6’2 and 210 has a much better chance of being a useful player in some capacity. You’ll also remember Callahan retired early due to injury. Gallagher has had tons of injuries.

This is like when every 5’5 player coming through the draft was responded to as “what about MSL?”There was one MSL and a lot of flat misses.

That’s not to say I’d rule out a smaller guy, but I’d have to think he’s a tier above the competition. I also don’t have a problem with mid-late round dice rolls.

I read something interesting about the amount of players under 5’10 in the league. Those guys exist and some are great players, but the odds of hitting are much less likely. That’s why most are not taken high unless they are seen to have home elite characteristics.

Pull up the Vegas team and look up how many players are listed as being small outside of JAM.
 
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Are we saying he’s going to be Brayden Point? I’d really have to believe a guy has high end talent to take him that high at that size. The problem is the likelihood of success. If you draft a kid who’s 5’8 and slight and he’s not a slam dunk top 6 forward then you most likely flat missed on a potential player. That kid who’s 6’2 and 210 has a much better chance of being a useful player in some capacity. You’ll also remember Callahan retired early due to injury. Gallagher has had tons of injuries.

This is like when every 5’5 player coming through the draft was responded to as “what about MSL?”There was one MSL and a lot of flat misses.

That’s not to say I’d rule out a smaller guy, but I’d have to think he’s a tier above the competition. I also don’t have a problem with mid-late round dice rolls.

I read something interesting about the amount of players under 5’10 in the league. Those guys exist and some are great players, but the odds of hitting are much less likely. That’s why most are not taken high unless they are seen to have home elite characteristics.

Pull up the Vegas team and look up how many players are listed as being small outside of JAM.
Ryan Gropp was 6'2 and wasn't useful besides his shot. Size doesn't make you a better player. Huge Jessiman Dylan McIlrath yeah size matters 🙄
 
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Andersson was the character player. Kravtsov was drafted because he had 'wow!' skills and had just had a great KHL playoffs as a teenager. There was also the size thing going with him. I think the Rangers saw a future 6'4/6'5 scoring power forward with superior skating and hand skills. I say that because I don't think the Rangers ever took a deep dive on his personality. He was something of a known quantity throughout the year but he only really starts gaining 1st round attention towards the end of his draft year. He was a riser. Sometimes that works as in Chytil although in Filip's case it took him some time to get to where he is now. Miller was also a bit of a riser but quicker on developing.

As for character issues I don't think either Lias or Vitali are bad people. When I critique them--not knowing them personally I critique them as hockey players. They both seem headstrong though and maturity is a funny thing.....in real life and in pro sports not necessarily the same. A pro athlete in a team sport has to find his way amongst the other personalities of teammates, coaches and managers and adapt his/her own personality to the goals of the rest even if it means a smaller than a larger part. Not everyone finds that easy to do.
 
I could see this pick being traded- they won’t want to have to sign another first round pick. I’d be expecting they trade down for maybe 2 or 3 picks next year or preferably 2 or 3 this year in a later round.
 
I could see this pick being traded- they won’t want to have to sign another first round pick. I’d be expecting they trade down for maybe 2 or 3 picks next year or preferably 2 or 3 this year in a later round.

It’s not like the first round pick has to be signed right away. That makes no sense

No point in drafting a forward with our 1st round pick since we know how that usually turns out...


So I guess did not want Othmann drafted.
 
I like Sale. Ultimate middle-six prospect. I love his skating, too.
I get that you like his skillset - I do too, but my concern is that he really seems to check out mentally quite a bit and has zero interest in even trying to play defense. I could see him being an effective second liner in the NHL. I can also see him playing in Europe for his entire career. I think there will be safer options and I tend to be fairly risk averse.
 
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Ryan Gropp was 6'2 and wasn't useful besides his shot. Size doesn't make you a better player. Huge Jessiman Dylan McIlrath yeah size matters 🙄
Ok, you’re completely ignoring the entire context of the argument. I’m not saying don’t take a smaller player. I am saying that you only take the smaller guy if you think he’s a tier above those around him. Why? Just looking at the make up of the league, the bigger player has a much better chance of being a player down the road. Middle to late rounds, sure… roll the dice. The problem when drafting early is that trying to draft an MSL and getting a Bracco there’s a more limited chance he becomes a contributor. The margins are thin. If a comparable player is 6’2 or 6’3 then he has a much bigger chance of sticking and contributing if he doesn’t hit his ceiling.

You also can’t ignore the size of most successful playoff teams. You like to bring up a guy like Marchand. He’s one of my favorite players in the league, but take a gander at the size of the rest of most Boston teams.
 
Of the options available, give me Andrew Cristall. Shoot for the moon at 23 (assuming he's there, but IMO he won't be.)



Just one model of course but at 23 you take him all day.
 
It’s not like the first round pick has to be signed right away. That makes no sense




So I guess did not want Othmann drafted.
no but eventually he will need to be signed and- especially if he's any good( I know that's not what usually happens around here with top picks) he's gonna need to be paid. The 23rd pick is prime for moving so I really don't expect them to pick there. I'd expect it to be moved with Laf somewhere.
 
no but eventually he will need to be signed and- especially if he's any good( I know that's not what usually happens around here with top picks) he's gonna need to be paid. The 23rd pick is prime for moving so I really don't expect them to pick there. I'd expect it to be moved with Laf somewhere.
I doubt they move Lafy when his value isn't that good
 

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