If you had $100 to bet, who would your money be on?

[psycho_dad*]

Believe me, Slovakia, Finland and Czechs are the only ones really worth playing. Russia can be used as a wild card but they are such a mess...

Slovaks lack in defence maybe, but they could ride a hot hand from Lasak once again. You only need to win a few games at the right time in this tournament. They have a good return. Finland has even better return, and looks solid on all departments, especially on defence. The whole team is made of mostly defensive forwards, defensemen and a vezina candidate goalie. Defense wins games, hot goalies win tournaments. They might not beat anyone 5-0, but they can upset anyone with a 1-0. Their return is even better than Slovaks, and they do not have a significant lacking in defense.

Sweden has a way too low return for a team with such goalies. Their team is impressive but...goalie is the most important part in any tournament or playoffs.

Czech have it all. They have decent goal tending, good defense, good offense. But their return is not good enough to compensate the difference with Finland and Slovaks.

 

[Masao]

I'd bet 10 000 dollars on Germany then kidnap all the good players from the other teams

 

[psycho_dad*]

I dont get it why would winning 2 times more than you lose make you lose your "best bet" status?

Obviously you are not a betting man.

First rule, forget every possible national feeling and prejudice you have. Then look at the odds. The best possibility/return ratio is the one you want. In this case, Canada is a favourite of course, but their return is closer to a "sure thing". And it is by no means a sure thing.

 

[me2]

Ahhhhh. Thanks . I dont usually bet with odds and the such only among friends.

How are my winnings calculated?
When you add selections to your Bet Card, the potential payout for your bet is calculated and displayed for you automatically. Here is how the calculation is determined:

The decimal price that we display is the price you get for the outcome of your event. This price includes your bet amount. Your winnings are calculated by simply multiplying your bet amount by the displayed odds. For example:

Place a $100 bet at a price of 3.5

Your return would be:
$100 x 3.5 = $350

On North American Sports, the equivalent 'cents line' or “money line†is also displayed. With a 'positive' money line, which indicates the underdog, for every 100 cents you bet, you receive the amount displayed plus your bet amount. For example:

Place a $10 bet at a cents line of +130 (decimal price of 2.3)

Your return would be:
($10 x 130 cents) + $10 bet amount = $23 (= $10 x 2.3)

With a 'negative' cents line, which indicates the favourite, for every 100 cents you wish to win, you need to bet an amount equivalent to the displayed line. For example:

Place a $12 bet at a cents line of –120 (decimal price of 1.83)

Your return would be:
$10 + $12 bet amount = $22 (= $12 x 1.83)

I was thinking the +125 meant $1.25 which is wrong it would make it $2.25 for the win (not familiar with the +125 system and was looking at what someone else said ).


$2.25 doesn't look too bad now I have worked it out. Canada only would need 50% of the comps to be profitable. 85% success in the qtrs, 75% in the semi & 70% in the final. Very tough ask but not impossible.



I'd go looking for other odds though, away from NA. I tend to find the betting agencies usually have lower odds on their home countries. If the US was playing Canada I go to a US broker to bet on Canada as they would usually offer better odds than a Canadian broker (homerism in betting tends allow the bookie to offer less lucritive odds on its home team as fans will be fans).

Lists odds from around various places.You often see odds like 6/4 (bet 4 win 6) 10/3 (bet 3 win 10) from bookies. On the sheet below I think they are 6/4 odds + your original bet back (6/4 here means bet $1 and you win $1.50+$1 aka $2.50). Tricky, so many systems looking way to alike!!!.....

http://www.oddschecker.com/oddschecker/mode/o/card/cc17570x/odds/301213x/sid/399294/mbid/2561677



These are the odds from an Australian bookie CENTREBET (best I could find for Canada)
(bet $1, get back $3 total if you win)
CANADA 3.00
SWEDEN 4.25
USA 4.35
CZECH REP 6.00
SLOVAKIA 7.00
FINLAND 11.00
RUSSIA 11.00
GERMANY 67.00

I really prefer the nice sensible decimal system.

 

[Papa Smurf]

Sweden. I would bet for canada, but if I won I wouldnt be getting much a profit.

 

[psycho_dad*]

These are the odds from an Australian bookie CENTREBET (best I could find for Canada)
(bet $1, get back $3 total if you win)
CANADA 3.00
SWEDEN 4.25
USA 4.35
CZECH REP 6.00
SLOVAKIA 7.00
FINLAND 11.00
RUSSIA 11.00
GERMANY 67.00

With these odds only Finland and Russia are playable.

 

[Douggy]

I really like the odds that Finland is getting. I doubt they'll win, but they are still very underrated.

 

[The Legend]

Why not Germany? They can play defensively, wait for the breaks, and ride a hot goalie in Kolzig. Think about it: The games are being played on the NHL Ice surface, so talent means less.

 

[Markov]

I'd bet on Russia just for the hell of it.

 

[flamesfever]

Odds are according to USA Sports Casino.

Canada +125
Sweden +350
USA +375
Czech Republic +600
Slovakia +1000
Russia +1200
Finland +1200
Germany +5000

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I would look at finland, if Kipper is HOT like he was in the playoffs, they could be dangerous, they seem to have a few gritty fiesty players in their mix...The D could be suspect though..

Also I have a pair of tickets available for Canada vs. Slovakia face value, email [email protected]. Sec 116 row w.

 

[LaVal]

Sweden. betting it on Canada is a waste. there's no gain, and a lot to lose. Sweden, IMO, has just as good of a shot to win as Canada.

 

[psycho_dad*]

Like I told you, Finland and Russia are the only smart bets here. Very good return especially with Finland, and very high probability.

 

[VanIslander]

Before the tourney began I picked Finland to be in the Final but to lose to Canada.

So, given the odds, I'd have put a few bucks on Finland, though not too many, because there's no payout for finishing second.

 

[Gainey23]

Sports Book piker here...

those lines have fluctuated 25 times between last week and now...
before the official news of Nabokov not playing, Russia was +700; having a hard time believing Slovakia is getting better odds than Russia at this point [to win it all], that's just foolhardy.

typically, i wouldn't bet $100 to win $110 on the sun coming up tomorrow, but i was in Vegas this past week and had to lay $40 on Canada v. USA (Canada was -150, but still), and likewise had another $25 on Russia over USA, which paid a bit better (have i formally renounced my citizenship, or what?).
had Finland over Czech Rep for $10, too (other than the Angels blowing it in Boston, i was 7-1 in the sports book for the week, a decent week if also counting the various off-track forays and Grey Goose/tonic binges at the craps table for 7+ hours each night).
the real surprising thing about Vegas was, NOBODY was taking action on the WC games, went to the Orleans (which has an ice-rink on premises), Mandalay Bay, MGM Grand, Imperial Palace, nobody, until i got the LV Hilton, knew anything about it... but they sure were taking action on Bowling Green v. Minnesota... gimme a break, unless you worship at the altar of football and baseball, this country sucks.

no big stretch to go w/ Canada to win it all, obviously, but the real fun happens when they slip in one single elimination game and one of those +500/1200 teams happens their way into the final.

 

[Papa Smurf]

IMO, Canada would be a stupid bet- you could only make 25 bucks if you won. And although they're heavy favourites - they're not going to win every international tournament, so who knows, they maybe due for some bad luck/play? I mean, nobody has lost on defense like Canada (mainly because nobody has that much to lose I guess). We went from having out second pairing being as good/better then any other teams top pairing to being just on par with Sweden IMO.

They went through 50 years of bad luck up to 2002 and the Jrs have had 8 stright years of bad luck. That time is over and now its time for Canada to win tournaments again.

 

[Panopticon]

I'd like to say Finland, but I'm going with Canada.

Finland still has a chance, though...

 

[High flyin' Habs*]

Agreed. Now way is Canada losing this tournament after such a solid start.