Speculation: If the B's Brass think Morrow is ready...

Colt.45Orr

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to step in on the 3rd pairing (sheltered minutes, tough, steady D partner in McQuaid or Miller) then they could use RFA Krug solve RW issue.

(Personally, I'm no Krug hater --I think he is a brilliant player for us and I'm not "looking" to move him). I know the Detroit Red Wings think highly of him and I've always thought his game closely resembles Brian Rafalski --another player that Holland was a big fan of. Krug just had a 40pt season as a ROOKIE dman in the NHL and, obviously, made the All-Rookie-Team for good reasons and is still cost controlled. He has a ton of value. Oh, and he has also shown that he is a bigtime playoff guy --those guys are not easy to find.

Now, Detroit has some nice D in the pipeline but they obviously do not trust them as much as their fans do as they brought back Quincey (good God, right!) and employ Kindl. They have studly Mantha impending on the wing. Boston needs a cheap RW who can put the puck in the net and I think they would love to bring in their local boy, Krug. I have a friend who works with Krug in the offseason in Detroit so he obviously has kept his roots.

Anyway, what about this:

Krug (D) 23yrs old --RFA

for

Nyquist (RW) 24yrs old --950k


Obviously, it is a huge trade between divisional rivals and Krug could go all Subban against us, but Nyquist has the speed we need up front and Krug has the skill they need from the back line and, being a local boy, would put butts in the seats and sell jerseys off the rack.

Lucic--Krejci--Nyquist
Marchand--Bergeron--Smith
Camp w---Soderberg--Eriksson
Paille--Campbell-- Camp winner
Robins

Chara--Boychuk
Seidenberg--Hamilton
Morrow--McQuaid/Miller
Thoughts?
 

smithformeragent

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Not interested at all in moving Krug, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

I'll be upset if it happens.

He's probably my favorite player on the team.
 

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I'd make that deal, I like Krug but Nyquist is a slick young forward that can play both wings and we are deeper at D than we are with skilled wingers.

Plus it saves us some cap space this year.
 

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I'd make that deal, I like Krug but Nyquist is a slick young forward that can play both wings and we are deeper at D than we are with skilled wingers.

Plus it saves us some cap space this year.

I would do that, getting value in return, it would depend on how Det values him, if they see Krug as just an offensive defenseman, or if they think he can develop all around.

I think Bruins probably need to sweeten the deal a little, but not too much, a 2nd, or prospect like a Fraser.
 

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Is Morrow the puck moving type?

If so, does he slot in at half of Krug's production? Can it be quantified?

I feel that Krug was a large key to the revitalization of the power play.
They have been starving for a puck moving defenseman for years now and I would not be anxious to deal him just because of the cap crunch. It would be short sighted in my opinion.

I feel like wingers are interchangable pieces on this team. Plug one in and they'll produce relatively well.
 

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Honestly, I still question Nyquist's ability to sustain that goal scoring success. I'm inclined to believe it's nothing more than a blip over a small sample size (18.3 SH% over 57 games at a 40 goal pace). I don't hate the idea though.
 

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Detroit says no, I would take that for us though. We could use as many talented right wingers in this organization as we could get, and I think Nyquist is the real deal. I like Krug, but I'd trade him for Nyquist. I don't think Detroit does it though.
 
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to step in on the 3rd pairing (sheltered minutes, tough, steady D partner in McQuaid or Miller) then they could use RFA Krug solve RW issue.

(Personally, I'm no Krug hater --I think he is a brilliant player for us and I'm not "looking" to move him). I know the Detroit Red Wings think highly of him and I've always thought his game closely resembles Brian Rafalski --another player that Holland was a big fan of. Krug just had a 40pt season as a ROOKIE dman in the NHL and, obviously, made the All-Rookie-Team for good reasons and is still cost controlled. He has a ton of value. Oh, and he has also shown that he is a bigtime playoff guy --those guys are not easy to find.

Now, Detroit has some nice D in the pipeline but they obviously do not trust them as much as their fans do as they brought back Quincey (good God, right!) and employ Kindl. They have studly Mantha impending on the wing. Boston needs a cheap RW who can put the puck in the net and I think they would love to bring in their local boy, Krug. I have a friend who works with Krug in the offseason in Detroit so he obviously has kept his roots.

Anyway, what about this:

Krug (D) 23yrs old --RFA

for

Nyquist (RW) 24yrs old --950k


Obviously, it is a huge trade between divisional rivals and Krug could go all Subban against us, but Nyquist has the speed we need up front and Krug has the skill they need from the back line and, being a local boy, would put butts in the seats and sell jerseys off the rack.

Lucic--Krejci--Nyquist
Marchand--Bergeron--Smith
Camp w---Soderberg--Eriksson
Paille--Campbell-- Camp winner
Robins

Chara--Boychuk
Seidenberg--Hamilton
Morrow--McQuaid/Miller
Thoughts?

Fair deal. I don't think it could be much more close to be honest.
 

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Is Morrow the puck moving type?

If so, does he slot in at half of Krug's production? Can it be quantified?

I feel that Krug was a large key to the revitalization of the power play.
They have been starving for a puck moving defenseman for years now and I would not be anxious to deal him just because of the cap crunch. It would be short sighted in my opinion.

I feel like wingers are interchangable pieces on this team. Plug one in and they'll produce relatively well.

Krug IS the key to the power play, he's a breath of fresh air out there. He knows what he wants to do with the puck before it gets to him, and that's what makes him better on the pp than every other player on the Bruins. Everyone else has that minor hesitation and the chance is gone.
 

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interesting....

one of the more interesting quandaries posed on here.. a winger who could be great.. or a flash in the pan... for a defencemen who has excellent mobility.. but a bit of a defensive liability..

don't hate it..but bruins would have to kick in a bit more....
 

Colt.45Orr

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Or maybe you slot Warsfosky into that spot --I can't see him fetching much in return without having been given a proper chance to prove him self thus far.
 

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Warsofsky is higher on the depth chart than Morrow IMO.

Anyway this is a deal I'd seriously consider. Nyquist would be a really good fit here.
 

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Don't want another left shot right wing. If I move krug I want exactly what I want you know? A cost controlled right shot right wing.

Its a small detail but a necessary one as you have all 3 of your lines with off wing shots from that side. It limits a lot what you can do on the rush if a left shot is coming down the right side his options aren't as varied
 

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After reading just the first sentence of the OP, the idea of using Krug on RW was what I thought he was proposing. Is that so crazy? Maybe move him back to D on the PP. We could kill two birds with one stone.
 

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I like Krug and what he brings, but if he can net a RW of Nyquist's caliber I think I would pull the trigger especially with the depth we have at defense. It can/will save us cap space and fills a position of need.
 

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Warsofsky is higher on the depth chart than Morrow IMO.

Anyway this is a deal I'd seriously consider. Nyquist would be a really good fit here.

Totally agree. Warsofsky's play over the second half was NHL worthy and the only reason he wasn't in the NHL is that Krug held the exact role he would play. He was actually out of place he was so good in the Calder Cup playoffs.

Morrow is definitely in need of another year in the AHL. He made some horrible turnovers that, under NHL speed pressure, would only get worse. I'm not even sure he's got the rinkmanship instincts to clean up his game.

This scenario only works if Warsofsky takes Krug's position, not Morrow. But the Bruins love Krug in his role, and it's highly unlikely moving him would be anywhere on their radar. I have no doubt they intend to move Bart and Warsofsky, guys they cannot carry, in an effort to acquire a solid fit on RW. Wouldn't surprise me if Spooner was also going in the deal.
 

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Krug had forty points on d in his rookie season someone said. Iginla had 60 with a few en goals. Wingers are easier to find than pp and puck moving defense. I pass.
 

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It absolutely shocks me how many people totally over rate Torrey Krug. A one dimensional guy who is simply a specialist that can play one third of the ice and usually plays best when his team is on a PP.....This guy is a number 5-6 DMAN who if he had to play real minutes at equal strength would be totally overwhelmed and probably dominated. Cant retrieve pucks out of corners, cant control or protect the front of the net and is really not a dman who can carry the puck up the ice as he is usually knocked off or down before he gets to center ice.....Brilliant on the point on the PP...Great at attacking the net and filling the slot coming late on the PP and became a better passer...All those qualities though are inside our O zone......If we could sell high on this guy based on what people here think we should do it in a second...DETROIT would never ever do this deal BTW.......Any Bruin fan that wouldn't do this deal is simply playing Fanboy......We need a guy like KRUG I admit...Just that we need one that can play the other two zones besides just our offensive zone.
 

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It absolutely shocks me how many people totally over rate Torrey Krug. A one dimensional guy who is simply a specialist that can play one third of the ice and usually plays best when his team is on a PP.....This guy is a number 5-6 DMAN who if he had to play real minutes at equal strength would be totally overwhelmed and probably dominated. Cant retrieve pucks out of corners, cant control or protect the front of the net and is really not a dman who can carry the puck up the ice as he is usually knocked off or down before he gets to center ice.....Brilliant on the point on the PP...Great at attacking the net and filling the slot coming late on the PP and became a better passer...All those qualities though are inside our O zone......If we could sell high on this guy based on what people here think we should do it in a second...DETROIT would never ever do this deal BTW.......Any Bruin fan that wouldn't do this deal is simply playing Fanboy......We need a guy like KRUG I admit...Just that we need one that can play the other two zones besides just our offensive zone.


I was criticized here for making an issue of Krug's lack of open-ice speed. I cautiously approached the 2013-14 season where he was concerned because almost all of Krug's production in the 2013 playoffs came against Henrik Lundqvist, which is strange in itself. But, gotta say, he continued to reinvent and make new plays in 2013-14. He can be physical against bigger forwards (though the Bruins don't want him to), and he's been a solid No. 5 guy back there in his role. I agree on his ceiling regarding puck rushing, but the Bruins rely a lot on help from their centermen to make the transition plays so that limit is not a big problem on that account as well as the fact that he is not a top-four D. Krug may be well loved on the board, but I don't see anyone proclaiming his name in the same breath as Doughty, Karlsson or Keith. He plays in a limited role, very effectively.
 

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What has Morrow done in PRO that makes you think he's close?

The short answer? N-A-D-A

You can see the potential, but the pieces still need time to come together. It's looking promising, but I'd figure it on being a pressing issue in 1-2 more seasons, minimum … Certainly not now.

Plenty of things for Chiarelli to focus on in the now with the current D …

- Re-signing Krug
- Dealing with the Bartkowski arbitration
- Deciding the futures of both McQuaid and Boychuk
- The possibility of having to trade someone to be cap compliant …

I'm sure the farthest thing from his mind right now is Joe Morrow, who has 2 more seasons under his ELC where he can be allowed to continue developing in Providence without counting against the cap or getting into a Bartkowski-like predicament.

The best thing for Morrow right now is to stay the course in Providence.
 

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