If Marc Bergevin is fired, who do you want for next Habs GM ?

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26Mats

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Just bring in someone who wants to maximize talent, skill, and hockey sense.

It was clear from very early on that MB wanted to try to win the cup with the most grinders in NHL history. And it was clear early on what the results of that philosophy would be.
 
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It's totally normal that the owner is implicated in the operation of there team, I mean they put there money in that and they take the finical risk. If you would be owner of a business, you would't want to be implicate ?
An owner involved is ok if there's actual ACCOUNTABILITY! Was never a fan of Melnick or the owner in Carolina but you look at what Melnick did in Ottawa and the way Carolina plays, those organizations don't tolerate the bullshit excuses like in Montreal year in and year out, I said it before if Quebec ever got a team Molson would be toast, I've been a die-hard fan since the Dryden days and frankly I'm just sick of this entire organization from top to bottom. You hear it more often now from previous players that played for this organization ,yes it's not the 70's ,80,'s or early 90's anymore but this organization has just become completely stagnant.Benoit Brunet's brutal honesty is actually refreshing to hear , wish he was in the organization in some type of management capacity. Love how he ripped bergeven for changing coaches and we have the same exact problems as we did with Julien, why would we expect anything different with an assistant coach that had been there for 2 years. This is the problem I see with Bergeven, he has become quite crafty at getting the best value out of trades but as far as running an organization the way the glorious Habs should be he gets a big fat zero!
 

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Molson’s title is CEO and president, and that’s a big issue. He should separate Evenko from the hockey and only be president of the money side.
He’s clueless about hockey and couldn’t even find a GM that’s why we need a president of hockey ops .That’s the very first step.
How is he supposed to find us a GM this time around? Ask Savard again?
I wouldn’t have faith in anyone Molson picks.
 
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Just bring in someone who wants to maximize talent, skill, and hockey sense.

It was clear from very early on that MB wanted to try to win the cup with the most grinders in NHL history. And it was clear early on what the results of that philosophy would be.

To win Championships, you need a mix of everything. TB understood it last season and brought some grit and muscle to surround their skilled players.
 
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Roy could be good to get everyone onboard for a rebuild. That really was what I hoped Gainey was brought here to do.
 

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If Roy is named Habs GM, he will hire Benoit Groulx as his head coach.
 

Vachon23

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Molson’s title is CEO and president, and that’s a big issue. He should separate Evenko from the hockey and only be president of the money side.
He’s clueless about hockey and couldn’t even find a GM that’s why we need a president of hockey ops .
How is he supposed to find us a GM this time around? Ask Savard again?
That’s the very first step. I wouldn’t have faith in anyone Molson picks.
Like 90 % of the team president in the league and hire a sport management specialist to help you, and take the money you would put on a team President and put it to surround your GM with quality staff.
 

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Like 90 % of the team president in the league and hire a sport management specialist to help you, and take the money you would put on a team President and put it to surround your GM with quality staff.
Not sure I follow, Molson is the team president now.
 

Wats

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If just for kicks and giggles, bring in Roy with a 3 year contract and set the place on fire.
We are long overdue for an electroshock.

Honestly I don't mind fire if it's entertaining and has some hope for long term success. Current formula doesn't work. Right now the team is bad and old with little hope for future success barring miracle development success.
 

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Yes, but if you hire a team President you will need to pay him big bucks and he will take a big part of your staff budget money
Sure, that makes sense.
As long as Molson is not too involved. He got Savard as advisor to hire a GM , maybe he should also listen to the same advisor when he says it’s time to fire the GM .
 
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26Mats

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To win Championships, you need a mix of everything. TB understood it last season and brought some grit and muscle to surround their skilled players.

True. But top talent is the hardest to find.
 

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The ironic part of doing a tank is that people think that it means trading guys like Price & Weber, but they also think those guys are over the hill and not that good anymore which if true means they aren't the guys that prevent us from bottoming out.

If we trade the old declining vets and hand the team to Suzuki and Kotkaniemi, there's a half decent chance that those two guys show that they are legit 60-70 point 2-way centers which pretty much ends the chance of us rebuild via tanking. Especially if we are keeping guys like Anderson and Toffoli so that they have scorers to work with.

If we really wanted to tank we'd probably actually want to re-sign Danault as our #1 center and trade either Suzuki/Kotkaniemi for a top pick in the upcoming draft. We'd keep Weber but trade Petry, trade Anderson and promote Lehkonen/Byron.
 

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Molson said that the next 3-8 years would be great ones for this team. Really? Looking at all of the older players that we have under long-term contracts says otherwise. If he won't allow the next gm to start over/rebuild then there is no point to get rid of MB, just let him continue to bumble along as if everything is fine.
 

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Dear Marc,

there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over - Frank Zappa
 

OldCraig71

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People are saying that the players are reading HF habs and that they are affected by what is written here. It leaves me to wonder if Bergevin has skin composed of leather?
 

salbutera

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Roy could be good to get everyone onboard for a rebuild. That really was what I hoped Gainey was brought here to do.
Roy doesn’t own the team...if the consortium says “rebuild is an unacceptable option” as they told everyone who interviewed for the GM gig in 2012...it’s not going to happen.
 

salbutera

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Molson’s title is CEO and president, and that’s a big issue. He should separate Evenko from the hockey and only be president of the money side.
He’s clueless about hockey and couldn’t even find a GM that’s why we need a president of hockey ops .That’s the very first step.
How is he supposed to find us a GM this time around? Ask Savard again?
I wouldn’t have faith in anyone Molson picks.
Mtl is a financial backwater..it’s not Toronto or NYC...w a large wealthy corporate base + large disposable income population.

The only way to maximize profits off Les Canadiens is to leverage the brand for other business ventures.
 
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The ironic part of doing a tank is that people think that it means trading guys like Price & Weber, but they also think those guys are over the hill and not that good anymore which if true means they aren't the guys that prevent us from bottoming out.

If we trade the old declining vets and hand the team to Suzuki and Kotkaniemi, there's a half decent chance that those two guys show that they are legit 60-70 point 2-way centers which pretty much ends the chance of us rebuild via tanking. Especially if we are keeping guys like Anderson and Toffoli so that they have scorers to work with.

If we really wanted to tank we'd probably actually want to re-sign Danault as our #1 center and trade either Suzuki/Kotkaniemi for a top pick in the upcoming draft. We'd keep Weber but trade Petry, trade Anderson and promote Lehkonen/Byron.

I hear what you're saying, but this team is steps from tanking, regardless of whether KK/Suzuki become legitimate centers. Let's say that MTL moves on from their three key older vets (Weber, Price, Petry) and doesn't make any major signings, but retains RFAs.

Toffoli-Suzuki-Anderson
Drouin-Kotkaniemi-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Evans-Caufield

Edmundson-Romanov
Chiarot-Kulak

Unless those two plus Caufied become elite players, this top-9 and top-4 isn't making it out of the bottom five teams in the league.
 
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