If Marc Bergevin is fired, who do you want for next Habs GM ?

[Vachon23]

Chris Drury lives near me, he’s not leaving for Canada - very close w Marty St.Louis who lives next town over BTW (another guy who’s got no interest in going back to Canada)

Drury will make a good GM one day.

Intersting info thanks ! I knew that the chance he would be interested wasn't high but I was hoping that the money and the fact that is close from home could help

 

[Captain Mountain]

Personally my 1st choice would be Chris Drury but I don't think that will happen so my 2nd choice would be Patrick Roy. I would try to surround them with that team:

Sr VP of Hockey Operations + Assistant GM : Laurence Gilman
Cap/management/analytic specialist. In Toronto, he have Dubas in front of him who bring the same thing of him so it could be a better opportunity for him.

Assistant GM + Rocket GM: Martin Madden Jr
TT replacement, he would be the Rocket GM, what he's not in Anaheim and I would't be surprise if Anaheim decide to go with Chris Pronger for next GM (What I hope in fact) . A big name like him will help on a smaller market.

Assistant GM: Scott Mellanby
He have a really good reputation in the league and the trade department was never a problem and I think it's good to have a view from the inside for a new GM

Director of Player Personnel: Daniel Brière
He went to Wharton in Pennsylvania University, a really reputed management/business school where Warren Buffet/Elon Musk/Steve Cohen went. He played in the new NHL and he's really intelligent guy. He played with Drury too it could help with the English thing and Roy trade for him when he was with Colorado and like him a lot.

If Roy is GM, he's picking his own guys and he's going to want to exercise a lot of control. He only agreed to be join Colorado as HC AND VP of hockey Ops. And when they shifted towards more data driven decision making, he eventually quit due to lack of input.

You almost definitely aren't going to get a Gilman (who isn't Toronto's cap/management/analytic specialist, Pridham is). Odds are you aren't going to have anybody analogous to his role either. Madden isn't going to leave the Ducks where he's basically being groomed as a successor to a 66 year old GM. Mellanby might stay, but certainly not a given.

 

[Le Tricolore]

Mellanby keeps getting considered by other teams, someone thinks he`s is qualified for the job. He knows the organization and the players, he should at least get an interview.

On one hand I see where you're coming from, on the other hand I'd rather move as far away from the current management as we possibly can.

 

[The Great Weal]

Any chance of poaching Brisebois or Yzerman? Id be beyond ecstatic if we can nab one of them

Yzerman left Tampa because he wanted to go to Detroit. Molson wouldnt even listen to Brisebois as an option.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Drury have all what you're searching for a GM.
- He went to school and he's a really calm guy
- Good leader (Capitaine of 2 teams)
- He have the experience that you want and what Bergevin didn't had when he arrived. (5 yrs as Ass gm, 4 yrs as the AHL GM, 2x GM for Team USA at the WC)
-Modern day guy

...that's not really what I'm looking for. I want someone from an organization that values specific things and has a lot of senior management experience. The Rangers biggest successes are based on being lucky that they're in New York.

 

[Vachon23]

If Roy is GM, he's picking his own guys and he's going to want to exercise a lot of control. He only agreed to be join Colorado as HC AND VP of hockey Ops. And when they shifted towards more data driven decision making, he eventually quit due to lack of input.

You almost definitely aren't going to get a Gilman (who isn't Toronto's cap/management/analytic specialist, Pridham is). Odds are you aren't going to have anybody analogous to his role either. Madden isn't going to leave the Ducks where he's basically being groomed as a successor to a 66 year old GM. Mellanby might stay, but certainly not a given.

I agree that he will probably want to choose his guys but Roy like to bring quality staff with him who will challenge him (That's what he does with QC in the Q). I don't think either that I could work for Gilman it was more a dream but for Madden Jr I'm not that sure. Like I said if Anaheim decide to go with Pronger or a bigger name and Habs arrived with an offer like what I offer him, not sure he would refuse a job with a bigger role on the team where he was born

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I don't think Gorton is going anywhere near. Pittsburgh wasn't really attractive (even Mellanby refuse), they don't want to trade the big 3 and they don't have any futur. Montreal have to0 may to attract him and he would get a team that he can build something. An other pint that could help us, I think he is leaving in Connecticut, so Montreal is not far from home.

Pittsburgh is very attractive IMO, and until proven other wise, all these picks that we have or have had I'll believe it when I see it on the ice!!!

Price, Weber and Drouin no one around the league would touch that, Byron as well. Believe it or not I think the Penguins are in better shape than us!!

I just don't think Drury is ready to leave the Big Apple and with the team that Rags have assembled I don't blame him

Mellanby let's see if Molson even considers him!!!

 

[Doc5]

Yzerman left Tampa because he wanted to go to Detroit. Molson wouldnt even listen to Brisebois as an option.

Why? What’s the backstory again?

 

[1909]

Chris Drury would be amazing but with the language thing...

As a GM, doesn't matter much... If he is really more skilled than anybody else available. The less you see and hear from the GM, the better it is.

name a Bilingual hockey VP, and find a skilled bilingual head coach. GM, I don't care, and no fans would care either.

 

[HabsQC]

Emotion isn't the FO's issue, brains is.

Bergevin has built a team in his image as a player, now let Roy build a team in his. Give him the GM + Coach job and see where it leads us. It's the only way to break the curse.

 

[Doc5]

As a GM, doesn't matter much... If he is really more skilled than anybody else available. The less you see and heard from the GM, the better it is.

Yeah exactly, the on ice product will and should speak for itself

 

[dcyhabs]

I would put less emphasis on the former player aspect. Time to start training and grooming people. Playing the game does not make anyone a better GM. Scotty Bowman only played minor league. NHL and even AHL former players is a pretty small and relatively uneducated and nonintellectual pool of candidates, not that hockey players are dumb but they don't generally (Dryden and lots of other players did, but still a minority) focus on business/stats/probabilities/sports medecine/psychology. Ex-players know what worked for them, and they know a lot of old traditions, they don't often know what will work for others or for teams. The habs should be hiring and grooming people. Want scouts? Get a bunch of people, have them give a list each year. Wait a few years, go over the lists, see how good they were, see how many were predictable vs guessing. Pro scouting, ask several people for views, see how accurate they are over time. Promote the ones who do best.

I want the habs to develop and hire someone I've never heard of.

 

[dinodebino]

All seems to be in place for some replacements within the org if this team fails this season. Only thing I'm perplexed about was the the Marty Lapointe contract renewal.

 

[OnTheRun]

Any chance of poaching Brisebois or Yzerman? Id be beyond ecstatic if we can nab one of them

Both are currently holding a GM job somewhere else, so 0% chance until one step down or get fired.

 

[1909]

If Roy is GM, he's picking his own guys and he's going to want to exercise a lot of control. He only agreed to be join Colorado as HC AND VP of hockey Ops. And when they shifted towards more data driven decision making, he eventually quit due to lack of input.

You almost definitely aren't going to get a Gilman (who isn't Toronto's cap/management/analytic specialist, Pridham is). Odds are you aren't going to have anybody analogous to his role either. Madden isn't going to leave the Ducks where he's basically being groomed as a successor to a 66 year old GM. Mellanby might stay, but certainly not a given.

That's exactly the duties of a GM

 

[salbutera]

All seems to be in place for some replacements within the org if this team fails this season. Only thing I'm perplexed about was the the Marty Lapointe contract renewal.

You know exactly what’s going to happen....just channel your inner self.

MBs moving to Prez and Marty’s taking over as GM.

MBs relationship w Jr seems to be an awful lot like Sathers w NYR owner Dolan

Fact of the day:
if someone can remain employed as head of hockey ops (GM and/or President) in the NHL for 10-years, they get a bonus equity stake which goes towards their retirement / pension

MB needs 1-year to get the jackpot....the boy from Ville Emard isn’t giving that chance up

 

[Chili]

On one hand I see where you're coming from, on the other hand I'd rather move as far away from the current management as we possibly can.

Other teams groom their next gm as Brisebois was in Tampa. Anyone coming from the outside has alot to learn, especially if it`s a first time gm. Look how things have worked out in places like Minnesota and Buffalo. No idea if he would be even considered anyway.

 

[Vachon23]

Pittsburgh is very attractive IMO, and until proven other wise, all these picks that we have or have had I will believe it when I see it on the ice!!!

Price, Weber and Drouin no one around the league would touch that, Byron as well. Believe it or not I think the Penguins are in better shape than us!!

I just don't think Drury is ready to leave the Big Apple and with the team that Rags have assembled I don't blame him

Mellanby let's see if Molson even considers him!!!

Then why Drury/Mellanby and an other guy that I don't remember didn't want that job and Rutherferd resign ? They will be a mess in 3 yrs when the big 3 won't be there anymore. That being said, your probably right Drury won't leave NYR

 

[austin316]

How is Mathieu Darche a choice? Is this a f***ing joke?

 

[Doc5]

Both are currently holding a GM job somewhere else, so 0% chance until one step down or get fired.

Money talks though, just give them an offer they can’t refuse. If Molson wants the best candidate for the job, he can pull off something like this

 

[Vachon23]

All seems to be in place for some replacements within the org if this team fails this season. Only thing I'm perplexed about was the the Marty Lapointe contract renewal.

I'm concern about to that, that's why I hope Bergevin get a job elsewhere next yrs. Like that he could bring TT and Lapointe with him !

 

[Habs 4 Life]

How is Mathieu Darche a choice? Is this a f***ing joke?

Seriously the names available out there just because of the language situation is a freakin joke!!
I honestly think Pierre McGuire would do a better job than most of those guys!!! lol

 

[Captain Mountain]

I agree that he will probably want to choose his guys but Roy like to bring quality staff with him who will challenge him (That's what he does with QC in the Q). I don't think either that I could work for Gilman it was more a dream but for Madden Jr I'm not that sure. Like I said if Anaheim decide to go with Pronger or a bigger name and Habs arrived with an offer like what I offer him, not sure he would refuse.

Teams don't pick GMs because of their NHL careers.

And Roy literally quit because he didn't have enough input. He's still GM AND coach with Remparts and wanted that kind of role in the NHL too.

Roy isn't going to bring modern ideas, he's going to do his thing.

 

[The Great Weal]

Why? What’s the backstory again?

 

[Vachon23]

How is Mathieu Darche a choice? Is this a f***ing joke?

He's Julien BriseBois assistant, was the LHPS president, he does have a school background and there is not a lot of billiguale candidates that work in the league