Speculation: If Kevin Shattenkirk hits free agency. Next contract?

[SlapshotTheMovie]

What is Kevin Shattenkirk free agency value?

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[TOGuy14]

7x7 or something around there on the open market if he has another good year

 

[Off Sides]

I like guessing,

7 x 7AAV

Bonus money in 2017/18, 2020/21 & 2022/23

NMC for first 6 years, last year of deal modified NTC with NMC(no AHL)

Basically the Yandle deal (~44.4M) just more money/cap hit (~49M)

 

[bleedblue1223]

Almost exact deal as Yandle.

He was supposedly looking for Petro money, so around 6.5.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

7 years $49 million most likely is what i see him signing for maybe slightly less.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

So with in reason its fair to assume he is getting 6.5m-7.5m x6-7 years (can free agents sign for 8? I didn't think so for some reason)

 

[YaKraM]

or 8 years $52 million. .

Under the current CBA only the player's current team can offer eight years. So for Shattenkirk only St. Louis could. If he goes to free agency and signs with a team other than the Blues, max is seven.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Under the current CBA only the player's current team can offer eight years. So for Shattenkirk only St. Louis could. If he goes to free agency and signs with a team other than the Blues, max is seven.

The OP say if he hits the free agent market, Then yes that team can sign him for 8 years. Would've been no different then if Stamkos signed at 8 year deal with Toronto this summer. This assumes that Shattenkirk reaches the free agency market like the OP says.

 

[Leafs87]

The OP say if he hits the free agent market, Then yes that team can sign him for 8 years. Would've been no different then if Stamkos signed at 8 year deal with Toronto this summer. This assumes that Shattenkirk reaches the free agency market like the OP says.

That's not true. Shattenkirk can only sign a 8 year deal with STL any team singing him in free agency can only offer him 7 years

 

[WTFMAN99]

7 years at 6-7.5M per.

 

[go4hockey]

So with in reason its fair to assume he is getting 6.5m-7.5m x6-7 years (can free agents sign for 8? I didn't think so for some reason)

I thought you can only sign the 8 year deal if it's with the team your on. Any other team can only go 7 years.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

Under the current CBA only the player's current team can offer eight years. So for Shattenkirk only St. Louis could. If he goes to free agency and signs with a team other than the Blues, max is seven.

Thats what I thought. I am like 99% sure only current team can offer 8 years. Free agency max is 7.

 

[go4hockey]

The OP say if he hits the free agent market, Then yes that team can sign him for 8 years. Would've been no different then if Stamkos signed at 8 year deal with Toronto this summer. This assumes that Shattenkirk reaches the free agency market like the OP says.

Hitting UFA changes nothing. He can only go 8 years with his current team, any other team can only do a 7 year deal. If the Leafs could have signed Stamkos they could have only given 7 years period.

 

[Off Sides]

Technically the team who holds his rights at the previous trade deadline is the only team who can offer the player an 8 year deal, and if that player makes it to free agency without a deal, while they hold his rights, they themselves can only offer him a 7 year deal.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

That's not true. Shattenkirk can only sign a 8 year deal with STL any team singing him in free agency can only offer him 7 years

No it is true, It's only if St Louis trades Shattenkirk to another team then that team can only sign him for 7 years any team this year could've given Stamkos an 8 year deal because he was an UFA look it up. Tampa wasn't the only team that could offer Stamkos 8 years Only if Tampa traded Stamkos rights to say Toronto then yes they could only offer him a 7 year deal.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I can tell you now if he does hit UFA I want us to go HARD after him he would be the perfect partner for Reilly

If we could bring him in the D would start to look respectable

Hopefully we can do whst Edmonton did this off season snd land a big UFA fish except in our case we need a D man

 

[CanadienShark]

Thats what I thought. I am like 99% sure only current team can offer 8 years. Free agency max is 7.

To sign for 8 years, the player must have been with the team for a certain amount of time (TDL?), so trade then sign can't happen just prior to free agency.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

No it is true, It's only if St Louis trades Shattenkirk to another team then that team can only sign him for 7 years any team this year could've given Stamkos an 8 year deal because he was an UFA look it up. Tampa wasn't the only team that could offer Stamkos 8 years Only if Tampa traded Stamkos rights to say Toronto then yes they could only offer him a 7 year deal.

CONTRACT RULES, QUALIFYING OFFERS, Arbitration, & OFFER SHEETS.

Under the current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), teams can offer any of their pending unrestricted free agents a maximum contract length of EIGHT years. Prior to the current CBA, teams were free to sign players to massive, big-money contracts (such as Alex Ovechkin’s 13-year, $124 million contract signed in 2008). Outside teams are limited to a maximum length of seven years.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Hitting UFA changes nothing. He can only go 8 years with his current team, any other team can only do a 7 year deal. If the Leafs could have signed Stamkos they could have only given 7 years period.

Okay i was wrong then, Unless St Louis and another team agree on a sign and trade say 8 years $52 million and then said team gives Army the pieces that he needs then at UFA he can only sign for 7 years. 7 years $49 million is most likely what i see him signing for.

 

[PullHard]

No it is true, It's only if St Louis trades Shattenkirk to another team then that team can only sign him for 7 years any team this year could've given Stamkos an 8 year deal because he was an UFA look it up. Tampa wasn't the only team that could offer Stamkos 8 years Only if Tampa traded Stamkos rights to say Toronto then yes they could only offer him a 7 year deal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_salary_cap#Contracts_and_contract_limits

Read the last bullet point

 

[bleedblue1223]

No it is true, It's only if St Louis trades Shattenkirk to another team then that team can only sign him for 7 years any team this year could've given Stamkos an 8 year deal because he was an UFA look it up. Tampa wasn't the only team that could offer Stamkos 8 years Only if Tampa traded Stamkos rights to say Toronto then yes they could only offer him a 7 year deal.

That's not true.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

CONTRACT RULES, QUALIFYING OFFERS, Arbitration, & OFFER SHEETS.

Under the current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), teams can offer any of their pending unrestricted free agents a maximum contract length of EIGHT years. Prior to the current CBA, teams were free to sign players to massive, big-money contracts (such as Alex Ovechkin’s 13-year, $124 million contract signed in 2008). Outside teams are limited to a maximum length of seven years.

Okay thanks for the clarification, I thought the 7 year rule was only for trades not free agency. Good to know though.

 

[vipernsx]

Almost exact deal as Yandle.

He was supposedly looking for Petro money, so around 6.5.

Agreed.

Yandle money with enhancers for being a righty, one year younger, and current market conditions.

 

[Advanced stats]

No it is true, It's only if St Louis trades Shattenkirk to another team then that team can only sign him for 7 years any team this year could've given Stamkos an 8 year deal because he was an UFA look it up. Tampa wasn't the only team that could offer Stamkos 8 years Only if Tampa traded Stamkos rights to say Toronto then yes they could only offer him a 7 year deal.

No. UFA max is 7 years as per the new CBA.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-nhlpa-sign-collective-bargaining-agreement/c-649967

For the amount you post here, you should know this...

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_salary_cap#Contracts_and_contract_limits

Read the last bullet point

Got it unless it's an agreed sign and trade, Then it's only 7 years from a team that the player didn't play for the following year.