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New York Islanders: If Isles win one of the 2 lottery spots, then who would you like them to select?

Who do you want to see selected?

  • James Hagens, C 5'11 175 - 2006

    Votes: 18 51.4%

  • Michael Misa, C/LW 6'1 185 - 2007

    Votes: 8 22.9%

  • Matthew Schaefer, LHD 6'2 183 - 2007

    Votes: 8 22.9%

  • Porter Martone, RW 6'3 207 - 2007

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Anton Frondell, C 6'1 196 - 2007

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Total voters
    35
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saintunspecified said:
idk why - maybe it's just the way he looks - Misa reminds me of Stephane Richer.
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Reminds me of Dylan Strome.

saintunspecified said:
Hagens I've seen the most of. He had some confidence issues with his shot, but i think he'll solve it. But... that confidence issue never interfered with his overall game. And that's what I like about him - he just always gives you what you expect from him. I guess the question for him is will he be Hischier, Nugent-Hopkins, or more? But he won't be less - he's super safe.
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This ☝️

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Betman: "Listen Scott, I'm ready for the Isles to get that Top 2 pick. It's time. We need a winning team here. We need a full Belmont Center. We need a legacy. And I'm not going to make the same mistake as we did with the Coyotes, who should've gotten Matthews.

There's nothing like a homegrown kid coming back to his roots and guiding his childhood team to the promised land... A player who pulls a Crosby and spends his whole career as the ultimate symbol of the face of his fave storied franchise, as the best player to ever come from the Island, no less.

So, Scott, it's yours under the condition that you select the Long Island-bred Islanders fan who has all the prerequisites. You take Hagens. It's best for the Islanders. It's best for the NHL.

It's as simple as that. Are you ready?"

Malkin: "That's nice of you, Gary. It is. And I understand your concerns. But the folks at HF Boards keep saying that one of Schaefer or Misa, if not the burly Swedish kid, should be the pick here. They say we've gotta go with the BPA. And it feels like half of them don't think the Long Island boy can be the BPA."

Betman: "Ok, Scott, lemme tell you... This kid Schaefer ain't no Makar and was only ok at the WJC before getting knocked out for the season. Misa is so great at putting up junior-style points that Hockey Canada didn't invite him to the WJC OR the U18 Worlds. Think about that. He was available. Frondell looked great for a while but was burried in the 2nd league playoffs and let's be honest, the last time a Swede ended up playing like Forsberg was when his name was, well, Forsberg. Your HFBoards fanboys aren't even talking about Martone and Desnoyers, but neither is a Hagens.

This all said, for you to get the pick, it's for the purpose of creating the legacy - for you and for the NHL. That's the deal."

Malkin: "Really see where you're coming from here, but gotta go BPA and those guys at the boards are saying it's not Hagens. I'll have to decline your offer, Gary. Much appreciated."

Betman: "Came into the season as the overwhelming #1. First liner at BC as PPG trueblood freshmen. Put up 9 points in winning WJC gold.

You really don't want to take a good long moment to think this over?"

Malkin: "Not necessary. They sound pretty certain. They've explicitly stated you don't take a player as a PR gimmick and that's what you seem to be offering me. So, thanks, but no thanks."

May 5th - NHL Draft Lottery:
Picking 12th overall.... The New York Islanders.

Picking 2nd overall... The New York Rangers.
 
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Chapin Landvogt said:
Reminds me of Dylan Strome.



Betman: "Listen Scott, I'm ready for the Isles to get that Top 2 pick. It's time. We need a winning team here. We need a full Belmont Center. We need a legacy. And I'm not going to make the same mistake as we did with the Coyotes, who should've gotten Matthews.

There's nothing like a homegrown kid coming back to his roots and guiding his childhood team to the promised land... A player who pulls a Crosby and spends his whole career as the ultimate symbol of the face of his fave storied franchise, as the best player to ever come from the Island.

So, Scott, it's yours under the condition that you select the Long Island bred Islanders fan who has all the prerequisites. You take Hagens. It's best for the Islanders. It's best for the NHL.

It's as simple as that. Are you ready?"

Malkin: "That's nice of you, Gary. It is. And I understand your concerns. But the folks at HF Boards keep saying that one of Schaefer or Misa, if not the burly Swedish kid, should be the pick here. They say we've gotta go with the BPA. And it feels like half of them don't think the Long Island boy can be the BPA."

Betman: "Ok, Scott, lemme tell you... This kid Schaefer ain't no Makar and was only ok at the WJC before getting knocked out for the season. Misa is so great at putting up junior-style points that Hockey Canada didn't invite him to the WJC OR the U18 Worlds. Think about that. He was available. Frondell looked great for a while but was burried in the 2nd league playoffs and let's be honest, the last time a Swede ended playing like Forsberg was when his name was, well, Forsberg. Your HFBoards fanboys aren't even talking about Martone and Desnoyers, but neither is a Hagens.

This all said, for you to get the pick, it's for the purpose of creating the legacy - for you and for the NHL. That's the deal."

Malkin: "Really see where you're coming from here, but gotta go BPA and those guys at the boards are saying it's not Hagens. I'll have to decline your offer, Gary. Much appreciated."

Betman: "You don't want to take a good long moment to think this over?"

Malkin: "Not necessary. They sound pretty certain. They've explicitly stated you don't take a player as a PR gimmick and that's what you seem to be offering me. So, thanks, but no thanks."

May 5th - NHL Draft Lottery:
Picking 12th overall.... The New York Islanders.

Picking 2nd overall... The New York Rangers.
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I fear your lottery scenario. I do agree that many here on the Boards are trying to find reasons not to pick Hagens.
 
Chapin Landvogt said:
Reminds me of Dylan Strome.



Betman: "Listen Scott, I'm ready for the Isles to get that Top 2 pick. It's time. We need a winning team here. We need a full Belmont Center. We need a legacy. And I'm not going to make the same mistake as we did with the Coyotes, who should've gotten Matthews.

There's nothing like a homegrown kid coming back to his roots and guiding his childhood team to the promised land... A player who pulls a Crosby and spends his whole career as the ultimate symbol of the face of his fave storied franchise, as the best player to ever come from the Island.

So, Scott, it's yours under the condition that you select the Long Island bred Islanders fan who has all the prerequisites. You take Hagens. It's best for the Islanders. It's best for the NHL.

It's as simple as that. Are you ready?"

Malkin: "That's nice of you, Gary. It is. And I understand your concerns. But the folks at HF Boards keep saying that one of Schaefer or Misa, if not the burly Swedish kid, should be the pick here. They say we've gotta go with the BPA. And it feels like half of them don't think the Long Island boy can be the BPA."

Betman: "Ok, Scott, lemme tell you... This kid Schaefer ain't no Makar and was only ok at the WJC before getting knocked out for the season. Misa is so great at putting up junior-style points that Hockey Canada didn't invite him to the WJC OR the U18 Worlds. Think about that. He was available. Frondell looked great for a while but was burried in the 2nd league playoffs and let's be honest, the last time a Swede ended playing like Forsberg was when his name was, well, Forsberg. Your HFBoards fanboys aren't even talking about Martone and Desnoyers, but neither is a Hagens.

This all said, for you to get the pick, it's for the purpose of creating the legacy - for you and for the NHL. That's the deal."

Malkin: "Really see where you're coming from here, but gotta go BPA and those guys at the boards are saying it's not Hagens. I'll have to decline your offer, Gary. Much appreciated."

Betman: "You don't want to take a good long moment to think this over?"

Malkin: "Not necessary. They sound pretty certain. They've explicitly stated you don't take a player as a PR gimmick and that's what you seem to be offering me. So, thanks, but no thanks."

May 5th - NHL Draft Lottery:
Picking 12th overall.... The New York Islanders.

Picking 2nd overall... The New York Rangers.
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I'm not your budtender, Chapin, but if I were I'd advise you to lay off anything that could possibly provoke even mild paranoia.
 
Glory Days said:
I fear your lottery scenario. I do agree that many here on the Boards are trying to find reasons not to pick Hagens.
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Nobody is "finding reasons" to not pick him, the reverse is happening. He's outside the top two on most draft lists after starting many of them at the top and yet it's not surprising that on a board of people who have a long history of clamoring for local guys coming home, Hagens has the most votes by far here.

Personally I'm somewhat concerned about that dropoff and very aware about how people here feel about Long Island guys. If Shane Pinto were born in Ontario you wouldn't have nearly as many posts in this section wondering how we could get him here.
 
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Zeeker said:
We could’ve just waited a few days to start this thread since the lottery is on Monday.
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I don't think there's any harm in discussing it, it's kind of an interesting debate and the results so far are illuminating. 93 percent chance we're talking about something different on Monday.

(I suspect it's what we'd need to trade to get into the top 5 and draft Hagens)
 
seabass45 said:
I don't think there's any harm in discussing it, it's kind of an interesting debate and the results so far are illuminating. 93 percent chance we're talking about something different on Monday.
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True.

Although, I’m not quite sure the math works like you’re describing (adding 3.5% + 3.5%). And if it does, ignore me - this would’ve been a breeze for me fifteen years ago.
 
Top 5 in order for me
Misa
like his size and skills can play both C and LW
Hagens
Obviously, everyone's top pick at the beginning. But he didn't really play as well as I'd like this year.
Scahefer
A smooth puck moving Dman. Good size at 6.2 and doesn't mind throwing the hits. Even thought he's a LD, maybe this pick eases the though of moving Dobson.
Martone
Power forward, with skill, tough and can score. What's not to like.
Frondell
Reminds me of a typical swed. A two way player, not flashy, not great in any particular area IMO - dependable.
 
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Hockey is (like soccer) basically just a contest for time and space. And that's like 10x the case in the NHL versus lower levels. So when I watch prospect videos I look for evidence that a guy can create time and space with skating or skill or thinking, or can make difficult plays really quickly without time to think.

I re-watched some Martone videos and am really impressed by him. He's described as a power forward, but the most impressive thing to me is some of the really fast decision-making that you see - like where he'll take a pass and basically one-times a very difficult pass cross ice to a teammate for a goal. Seems to me like he's capable of thinking a play ahead. I like him a lot.

Hagens is super skilled and a great skater. I'd have no problem with him as the pick at #1 or #2. And it would be hard/risky not to take the local kid if he's there. One slight hesitation is that I see a lot of cases where he makes a really nice play but doesn't finish (but if he plays with Eiserman maybe doesn't matter!).

I left Frondell for last. Jeez. I really like him. He's skilled and seems really smart. I saw him make a LOT of plays that would impress me in the NHL. And he's got a sneaky shot - really good, with a lightning quick release and it seems heavy and finds corners. I mean, what do I know, but if they took him #1 or #2 I'd be fine with it. I may just be saying this because of his nationality, but when I watch his videos I think of probably my favorite non-Isles player ever - Peter Forsberg.

So, one of those 3 guys. Frondell my fav tonight. Ask me again tomorrow.
 
Yes, the Schaefer 1 OA is quite puzzling -
year 1 in CHL, his production was not becoming of a 1st OA pick.
Who knows what his 2nd year in the CHL would have been? 70-80 points for the season.

Likewise, what would James Hagen's production look like if he played OHL?

I take Hagens, however, I would very tempted to add a quality d man like Scahefer... Isles need more creativity from the blueline.

It is very unlikely they grab that seed, since the lottery rules and odds changed - in 3 years it has only been the top 3 teams that win.
 
Isn’t Schaefer the kid that skated straight in to the net and broke his collar bone in the world juniors?
 
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