If Dustin Brown Got Traded In 2012
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scryan
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I think most would say that the 2012 cup needed Brown and the 2014 didn't really...
The real question is did the 2014 cup need the confidence from the 2012 cup and 2013 WCF? I would be willing to believe that without the reinforcement the previous success gave them. they may not have had it mentally to push through the 2014 playoffs.
deeshamrock
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Columbus wanted to move Carter and Nash and asked for quite a package in return, which included Brown and Martinez among others. DL turned them down, but it didn't stop the local reporters in Columbus from talking about "LA might be moving their captain'. And that smoke was inhaled by a lot of hockey bloggers and reporters. You can't stop GM"s from asking...nor rumors from starting.
Could they have still won the cup? "What if " scenarios don't usually make much sense, he wasn't traded so we'll n ever know if Nash on a team where unlike the BJ's and Rags, he wasn't required to be the 'go to 'guy, with far less pressure would have fared better than he has in the playoffs career wise. He would have been on the first line with JW and AK and that might have been good , given how well the 2 nd li ne did.
Ziggy Stardust
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Kings don't win the Cup that year without Brown. Look at how he tormented Vancouver, St. Louis and Phoenix and his big Game 6 performance in the Cup Final.
Who else would send Henrik Sedin to la-la land and then score the game winning goal in the same game? He came up with big plays in every round. As much as he drives me nuts with his inconsistent play and his overpaid contract, you can't overlook his performance and impact in both Cup winning years.
Who else would send Henrik Sedin to la-la land and then score the game winning goal in the same game? He came up with big plays in every round. As much as he drives me nuts with his inconsistent play and his overpaid contract, you can't overlook his performance and impact in both Cup winning years.
The Pale King
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What's the precedent when a captain gets traded at the deadline? I can't think of too many times where it's happened... Iginla from Calgary I guess... but his team was way out of the race when that went down. Who gets the C in his place if Brown's dealt?
Brown and Richards were huge in that first round series against Vancouver. Those first couple games in Vancouver were really the only stressful part of that whole run from my perspective. Once they knew they could beat that 'Nucks team on the road, their confidence went through the roof and it didn't really seem to be in doubt the rest of the way.
The '13 Maple Leafs are more like the '04 Dodgers in my books. Both teams built in a pretty awkward sort of way (Wingers and Relievers), both can win in the regular season but aren't built for the playoffs at all. Both from huge markets, and both of 'em won playoff games for the first time in a looong time.
Brown and Richards were huge in that first round series against Vancouver. Those first couple games in Vancouver were really the only stressful part of that whole run from my perspective. Once they knew they could beat that 'Nucks team on the road, their confidence went through the roof and it didn't really seem to be in doubt the rest of the way.
The '13 Maple Leafs are more like the '04 Dodgers in my books. Both teams built in a pretty awkward sort of way (Wingers and Relievers), both can win in the regular season but aren't built for the playoffs at all. Both from huge markets, and both of 'em won playoff games for the first time in a looong time.
Ziggy Stardust
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I do remember the Rick Nash rumor with Dustin Brown going to Columbus, thankfully that never happened. Just look at how much of a "clutch" playoff performer Rick Nash has been. The Kings would have no Cups if they made that move.
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I think that without winning that first cup and the sense of being unbeatable that came with it, they don't win the second cup. Once they'd done it, they just seemed to be able to will the wins in 2014. I think that if there had been any doubt in the locker room in 2014 one of those game 7s would have gone the other way.
That said, I have no idea if trading Brown in 2012 would have still led to the cup. Keeping him led there though.
That said, I have no idea if trading Brown in 2012 would have still led to the cup. Keeping him led there though.
kingsfan28
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It was never true. It got started by a couple of scouts at a game playing the "what if Brown was available" game, then someone passed it off as a rumor to McKenzie and thats how it started.Eventually Lieweke went up to Brown and told him it was untrue and to just play and not worry about it.
As for winning the cup, it's so hard to say. He was so good in the early rounds, especially against the Blues. I think he got shaken up pretty badly when he got hit into the boards vs the Cryotes and it affected his game the rest of the playoffs until game 6 of the SCF .
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gnarls barkley
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they don't win either cup
Brown was pretty instrumental in '14 too, despite his regular season decline
Brown was pretty instrumental in '14 too, despite his regular season decline
Buddy The Elf
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Yeah, I was going to say that he made a pretty big play a minute or two before the Kings scored the GWG against Phoenix. He also played at a PPG pace in that series.
The guy had a major impact in the playoffs that year. I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that the Kings win the Cup without him.
BigKing
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He was still crushing the Devils in the Finals, most notably Clarkson. Also was part of the play to spring Kopitar for the GWG in Game 1, the prettiest goal of the Finals in Game 3 and then the power play work in Game 6.
As for the pretty big play before the series winning goal in Phoenix, it was more like 10-15 seconds before said goal. Don't know how some are capping 2012 for him after the Blues series: he made that Phoenix team lose its collective minds, ultimately leading to their captain--Shane Doan, M.D.--earning his medical degree within 30 minutes of the final buzzer.
He's never played better skill-wise and also ramped-up his physicality. It was awesome to watch.
His contract sucks now. Doesn't change the fact that he was instrumental in the first championship and, in all honesty, key to the second one as well. Guy was awesome in Game 7 in Chicago and skated pretty well against the Rangers. Oh, and he was the captain of a team that won three Game 7s on the road, came back from 0-3 etc.
Nobody he would of been traded for in 2012 would have provided the PPG, physicality and mind-effing Brown produced. Lucic would not have been able to stay on the ice, turn the other cheek and take the abuse that Brown did during that run.
