If Dustin Brown Got Traded In 2012

[Bee Sheriff]

When all those rumors came out, but he famously answered them by scoring a hat trick and then going on to have an amazing playoffs and win the cup.

Would the Kings have been able to win either cup if he had been traded? And would our current situation realistically be any better if he had been?

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[ADifferentTim]

Objectively speaking, I easily see an LA Kings version of the 2004 Dodgers, had that happened.

 

[Dawdler]

not sure what the previous poster is getting at but the Kings would not have won the first Stanley Cup, without Dustin Brown, the second is debatable but we don't know what goes on behind closed doors

 

[kingsfan]

Without having any idea what the Kings could have got in return, its impossible to answer. Odds are no no matter what they could have got back for the 2012 cup though. 2014 is much more debateable.

 

[Ron*]

If my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

If my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle.

And she would change her name to Bruce

 

[Butch 19]

Objectively speaking, I easily see an LA Kings version of the 2004 Dodgers, had that happened.

Like I remember 2004?

My long-term Dodger memory stops in 1988 - wow! that's a long time ago.

 

[Anonymous028]

As many problems I have with Dustin and his current state, there is no way we win in 2012 without him.

He must have sold his soul to the devil for his 2012 performance, because he was legendary. Best playoff performance from a winger that I can remember, he was physically dominating, responding to physical challenge from opponents, standing up for his teammates, and PPG. Legend for sure.

It's a wonder where all that went in 2 short years...

 

[ADifferentTim]

Like I remember 2004?

My long-term Dodger memory stops in 1988 - wow! that's a long time ago.

Seeing how the L.A. media did call Paul LoDuca "the heart and soul" of that 2004 Dodgers squad, Dustin Brown would easily be in that role, had he been traded away from the 2012 LA Kings squad.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

Apples and oranges.
The 2004 Dodgers are a horrible example. The 2012 kings were a young team that was just needed a top 5 forward and to get hot while the 2004 Dodgers were a older patchwork team that was playing anove their heads and relied way too much on two relievers.


The 2004 Dodgers were going nowhere. It's been well documented that several members of that team were juicing and that LoDuca was well known for breaking down late every season.

The problem with that team and Era was McBankrupt. He was in a guy who wasn't totally ready to be GM and had him on a shoestring budget so he could become liquid.
Instead of reinvesting the money back in the team, he decided to buy up all of Malibu and the LA marathon.
Dodgers fans should remember that LoDuca was not the heart and soul, but rather a guy that tried too hadn't be a leader. It came out after the trade that LoDuca was not liked in the clubhouse and annoyed everyone trying to be Vince Lombardi or Herb Brooks. The only reason that trade wasn't a total steal was because David Ross , who was ready to be a catcher, completely blew it and I blame coaching for that

 

[KingPuckChoo]

When all those rumors came out, but he famously answered them by scoring a hat trick and then going on to have an amazing playoffs and win the cup.

Would the Kings have been able to win either cup if he had been traded? And would our current situation realistically be any better if he had been?

what if situations are always tricky

but Brown carried us into the playoffs down the stretch

he was in beast mode

but who knows, maybe a trade would have sparked the Kings the same way

 

[Captain Mittens*]

what if situations are always tricky

but Brown carried us into the playoffs down the stretch

he was in beast mode

Untrue. Brown was a beast in the first two rounds of the playoffs.
Other than the hat trick, brown was average between the trade deadline and the playoffs.

 

[bral]

I remember reading that DL wanted Lucic for brown, then Brown scored a Hattrick the next game and the rumors were over.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

Untrue. Brown was a beast in the first two rounds of the playoffs.
Other than the hat trick, brown was average between the trade deadline and the playoffs.

well why do i remember Brown shutting down the trade rumours with amazing performances or was it up TO THE TRADE DEADLINE? i remember a strong few weeks around that time

what's wrong with my brain lol

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Apples and oranges.
The 2004 Dodgers are a horrible example. The 2012 kings were a young team that was just needed a top 5 forward and to get hot while the 2004 Dodgers were a older patchwork team that was playing anove their heads and relied way too much on two relievers.


The 2004 Dodgers were going nowhere. It's been well documented that several members of that team were juicing and that LoDuca was well known for breaking down late every season.

The problem with that team and Era was McBankrupt. He was in a guy who wasn't totally ready to be GM and had him on a shoestring budget so he could become liquid.
Instead of reinvesting the money back in the team, he decided to buy up all of Malibu and the LA marathon.
Dodgers fans should remember that LoDuca was not the heart and soul, but rather a guy that tried too hadn't be a leader. It came out after the trade that LoDuca was not liked in the clubhouse and annoyed everyone trying to be Vince Lombardi or Herb Brooks. The only reason that trade wasn't a total steal was because David Ross , who was ready to be a catcher, completely blew it and I blame coaching for that

Killed it. Then again, that's not hard to do against someone who has no ****in clue.

It depends on who the Kings would've gotten in return for Brown. I wouldn't say the Kings wouldn't have won rhe Cup without Brown.

 

[The Tikkanen]

The Kings would have won the Cup in 92-93 if they kept Paul Coffey! Back OT, the rumor seemed to get Brown going, 2 Cups later I think most King fans now have a problem with his contract, he's a great 3rd line winger and he's finally getting the chance to play the dirty minutes he should be playing with Lucic pushing him down the depth chart. I'm a fan not an accountant so I'm thrilled with the Lucic deal AND Brown on the 3rd line. Most athletes follow a bell curve for performance over their careers and Brown is in the natural down slope, unfortunately his contract does not reflect that curve, that's sports.

 

[KINGS17]

Without having any idea what the Kings could have got in return, its impossible to answer. Odds are no no matter what they could have got back for the 2012 cup though. 2014 is much more debateable.

Rumor was they were after Rick Nash.

 

[kingsfan]

Untrue. Brown was a beast in the first two rounds of the playoffs.
Other than the hat trick, brown was average between the trade deadline and the playoffs.

The trade deadline was the afternoon of February 27 that year. Starting with the game that evening until the end of the regular season, Brown scored five goals and 19 points in 20 games.

And that doesn't include the hat trick game. That was on February 25. The hat trick game though was the first of a 10 game point scoring streak, so Brown was definitely well above average from that game on.

Rumor was they were after Rick Nash.

I'd assume it wasn't a one for one type of swap. Do you recall what else the Kings would have had to give according to the rumours?

 

[Ron*]

I was at the hat trick game and afterwards went up to a couple who were both wearing No. 23 jerseys and I rhetorically told them "Let's see the Kings trade Brown now."

 

[Captain Mittens*]

The trade deadline was the afternoon of February 27 that year. Starting with the game that evening until the end of the regular season, Brown scored five goals and 19 points in 20 games.

And that doesn't include the hat trick game. That was on February 25. The hat trick game though was the first of a 10 game point scoring streak, so Brown was definitely well above average from that game on.



I'd assume it wasn't a one for one type of swap. Do you recall what else the Kings would have had to give according to the rumours?

True but not on fire and not carrying the team. That happened In round 1
and round 2

 

[kingsfan]

True but not on fire and not carrying the team. That happened In round 1
and round 2

Well, agree to disagree then but when in his career has Brown scored nearly a point per game for a quarter of the season or scored a point in 10 straight games? I mean maybe he's not 'carrying' the team, but that's mightily impressive and you said he was average between the trade deadline and the playoffs. Hard to say that's average.

 

[kingsboy11]

The trade deadline was the afternoon of February 27 that year. Starting with the game that evening until the end of the regular season, Brown scored five goals and 19 points in 20 games.

And that doesn't include the hat trick game. That was on February 25. The hat trick game though was the first of a 10 game point scoring streak, so Brown was definitely well above average from that game on.



I'd assume it wasn't a one for one type of swap. Do you recall what else the Kings would have had to give according to the rumours?

I think it was Brown, Jack Johnson, 1st round pick and something else I think.

 

[BigKing]

Brown was still a force in the WCF against Phoenix as well. He was great the entire run, really.

They don't win if he's traded at the deadline.

 

[Bee Sheriff]

Kingsfan brought up a good point earlier in the thread. It matters what Brown would have been traded for

It obviously would have been a player of immediate impact in order to win that 2012 cup. Someone like Nash isn't exactly that in my opinion. Lucic? Maybe.

In the end i think it's obvious we ended up in the best case scenario but you still have to wonder if we could have found the same results with less baggage.

 

[Quattro]

They don't win either Cup imo.