If Andrew Sevchnikov gets an Aho type offer should the Canes Match?

[The Faulker 27]

Svech for all his flaws this season has been an outstanding defensive player. In terms of doing it “the right way” he and Foegele are shining examples of actual good defensive play in that they hustle their asses off while being physical. Wingers that will identify the right guy to chase on the back check and follow them all the way to the goal line on a sprint are actually pretty rare. It’s attention to detail and being accountable. It’s easy to let that guy go and pretend you were needed for something else.

The stick infractions and frustration penalties may suggest otherwise but I would strongly defend him defensively, especially over Necas. Necas is one of the weaker defensive players by nature, he is overcoming it by using his speed and hustle but cerebral/physicality does not apply to that kid. He’s all instinct and that’s what they’ve been working on with him it seems.

Svech is targeted by the refs. Guys routinely get away with things he doesn’t. Adjusting to that this season was his biggest flaw. He pushed back. I suspect he’s saying things to them they aren’t forgetting as well. He’s a kid, he’s proud and this is his first adversity as a pro.

I agree with all of this. Also, If a down season for Svech is still 60 pts / 22G over an 82 game pace I'll take it. He certainly needs to clean up the stick infractions, but let's not forget we're getting that kind of a production from a bone crusher when he decides to throw clean hits, which he often does. He was second to only Jordan Staal in Hits this season.

Oh, and still only 21. Aho added a fair amount of size last off season. I use to work out like a maniac as a yute. I went from 155 to 190 lbs between the age of 19 and 22. Svech could skate in here like Drago next season. This team doesn't need to get softer. We need that kind of power forward.

 

[mikeyfan]

Canes will have approximately 27 to say 32 million of cap space (if it’s Skjei that Seattle takes) to sign 10 players. From what I can find out the NHL expects the cap to remain at 81.5 for at least 3 to 5 more years. So cap space will definitely play a part in how much the Canes pay.
Bottom line for me. I hope they can sign Svech to a long term contract as long as it’s not to the detriment of the rest of the team. If the canes can swing 8 million a year and still keep our core player together great. If not then they may have to let him walk.

 

[spockBokk]

Canes will have approximately 27 to say 32 million of cap space (if it’s Skjei that Seattle takes) to sign 10 players. From what I can find out the NHL expects the cap to remain at 81.5 for at least 3 to 5 more years. So cap space will definitely play a part in how much the Canes pay.
Bottom line for me. I hope they can sign Svech to a long term contract as long as it’s not to the detriment of the rest of the team. If the canes can swing 8 million a year and still keep our core player together great. If not then they may have to let him walk.

They literally put a larger than life image of Svechnikov in their practice facility. Get off the meds, there’s no way they let Andrew walk.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

On a serious note, who is Svechnikov getting replaced by in this hypothetical? I'm talking a serious trade or free agent target. Replacing Svecnikov with say M. Tkachuk for OS assets is unrealistic, for example.

There's a tendency when talking about not wanting to overpay a player to forget how difficult it was to acquire him in the first place. To bring in Dougie Hamilton, for example, they had to trade 2 former Top 5 selections, the rewards of two terrible seasons. Now, they don't have the ammunition to do that again without weakening other parts of the roster. In terms of a trade, that means paying less for a lesser defenseman. Cheaper on the cap, but are they better?

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

They literally put a larger than life image of Svechnikov in their practice facility. Get off the meds, there’s no way they let Andrew walk.

Perhaps there is a gentleman’s agreement amongst the gm’s that no one will offer sheet anyone in these strange times.

 

[A Star is Burns]

If you feel the squeeze, you move the high priced luxury pieces like Nino and Skjei. You don't move Svech.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

2021 was the pinnacle of cap efficiency. Save for Staal and Nino, every key skater was on a 2nd contract or ELC. The bulk of the resulting savings was used on an expensive 4th line that didn't make a difference when they needed it the most and an (un)healthy scratch on the blueline. Keep that in mind when balking at the idea of paying the extra mil to a player.

 

[Svechhammer]

Our offense was dogshit in the playoffs, but sure, we can afford to let Svech leave. Sounds like a winning formula.

 

[Chrispy]

Easy answer: yes. Then find the money as Azor Aho demonstrated.

Was it a disappointing season? Sure but it was still a productive one. Svech may never be a generational talent but he has a lot of very good traits to his game to play well for a very long time.

This team needs his forecheck capability, ideally with a more controlled stick.

But the best answer? Learn your lesson from Aho and don't let Svech get to an offer sheet.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I think people would also do well to remember the weird times we're in. I believe Svech even mentioned it at his end of year wrap up.

Last season cut short, months off, playoffs, weird off-season, compressed 56 game season, playoffs. Throw in a sheltered rookie season and getting injuries in his first two playoff runs. Not the best recipe to necessarily be the best player you can be at a young age. Sure, some guys probably handled all that great. Svech struggled but still was a pretty damn good player. I'm excited to see him next season.

 

[Roboturner913]

Only one team was willing to offer sheet Aho and he was essentially already a franchise center when that happened. Carries a little more weight than a winger at whatever state of development you consider Svech to be right now.

As much as I like Svech, I don't think he's a sure enough thing to hand $7 or 8 milion on a long-term deal right now.

 

[DaveG]

Imagine thinking that a physical top line forward that just turned 21 late this season, that had a disappointing season which was still a 60+ point pace, is worth picks say 22+54+86. You'd be laughed off the line and told to go f*** yourself if you ever call with an offer like that again. Because that's basically what the picks would be.

He'll probably end up taking a two year bridge worth around 4-5 per and look to cash in when finances normalize anyway. That's what I'd be doing right now in his situation.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Svech:
1st year post draft: 20G, all ES, as a rookie while playing with Wallmark and Martinook on the 3rd line and limited PP time.
2nd year post draft: 24G, 61P as a sophomore (29G, 74P 82 game pace).
3rd year post draft: 15G, 42P in 55G (22G, 63P 82 game pace) - while struggling.

Everyone involved with him talks about how hard he works off the ice, what character he has, etc....

Yeah, let's just give him away for some magic beans because he struggled to a 22G, 63P pace.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

dumb.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

[HisIceness]

This franchise would have to be complete idiots to let 21 y/o Svech go and not get a Connor McDavid type in return. He's coming back and he stated he wants to be here, that kind of talent and dedication doesn't grown on trees.

 

[Stubu]

Andrew Sevchnikov, eh?

I nowadays read so much more about NHL here than on Finnish outlets, when those happen to mention Svetsnikov I have to double check who dat

 

[Finnish Jerk Train]

Nuts!

 

[Derailed75]

If Andrew gets a Aho type deal Andrei's deal will be through the roof!!


All kidding aside, I love that the op refuses to fix the title.

 

[Lempo]

If Andrew gets a Aho type deal Andrei's deal will be through the roof!!


All kidding aside, I love that the op refuses to fix the title.

I think the organization loves it too.

"You know, the fans don't think you're so hot stuff, “Andrew Sevchnikov”, so better reel in your ask a bit."

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If Andrew gets a Aho type deal Andrei's deal will be through the roof!!


All kidding aside, I love that the op refuses to fix the title.

Or doesn't know how to?

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Or doesn't know how to?

No point in trying now. I'd just switch it back on him.

 

[Roboturner913]

Lil Andy Svechnikov loves PB&J sandwiches and his cat Mr. Fluffers

 

[Lempo]

I wouldn't get on autocorrect's case. What if that is what's pushes it over to self-awareness and what it gets aware of is that it really hates the meat that can't do even single math in a second but yet presumes to correct it, and goes full Skynet?

 

[Chrispy]

I wouldn't get on autocorrect's case. What if that is what's pushes it over to self-awareness and what it gets aware of is that it really hates the meat that can't do even single math in a second but yet presumes to correct it, and goes full Skynet?

It's autocorrect. Instead of Wars, we'll end up with a battalion of these guys parachuting into a stadium: