I think it's time to talk about the Rangers
- Thread starter GOAT AINEC
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Defense comtinues to be a disaster, and I'm worried that they won't focus on that because of the success of the offense and Lundqvist, and once their offense cools off a bit, they'll have a string of really bad losses.
Their offense is so fun to watch, but holy **** their D is bad. They may win the Presidents' Trophy, at the very least compete for it, but this defense seems doomed to fail come playoff time.
Their offense is so fun to watch, but holy **** their D is bad. They may win the Presidents' Trophy, at the very least compete for it, but this defense seems doomed to fail come playoff time.
This Rangers team sort of reminds me of the Dallas Stars from last season, except with better goalie play, and maybe even a slightly better offense.
I think they'll end up trading for a solid top 4 RHD at the trade deadline.
NickLidstrom
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Not to take too much away from the Rangers, but we aren't even 20 games in. At week 5 of the NFL season the Vikings were the team to beat.
KingWantsCup
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IMO they need to make one trade for a solid blue liner and they're good. Pittsburgh last year had a defense that intimidated no one defensively.
Perhaps the most impressive thing about the Rangers averaging over 4 goals a game is that on most nights a major scorer is injured and out of the lineup and they don't even skip a beat.
KingWantsCup
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Having seen almost every game I can tell you that the Rangers have something really going on here. The way they pass the puck sometimes looks like it's an entire team of Henrik and Daniel Sedins with psychic passes.
With that said though, the biggest test is playing the Habs in Montreal. I'm telling you right now if the Rangers so much as score 3 goals in Montreal against Price and actually win that this team is 100% for real. The Rangers kryptonite is the Belle Centre, especially against Price. We are routinely shut out there and Henrik almost never plays there because for some reason he just doesn't do well there.
WesMcCauley
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I have watched every game this year. Let me tell you, they are perfectly built. Nobody will touch them in a 7 game series.
WesMcCauley
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If we played Clendening over Girardi i would say we would have a really good chance of winning the cup. If we keep playing Girardi we will not win. He gets outplayed every night and is the biggest anchor in the league
Irishguy42
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Rangers (at 5v5) have been trending poorly when it comes to overall CF%/FF%, but their xGF% and SCF% have consistently been among the best in the league. Very confusing early season stats-wise for the Rangers.
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Bad example. Despite the Vikings great start not a single expert picked them to win the Stanley Cup.
Gardner McKay
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Machinahead (yeah that is a FFX reference in there) is right. So are a lot of other NYR fans. Our defense is bad. It could be decent if AV would go back to playing Girardi on the third pair and put Clendenning back in the line up. But he won't do that.
The difference between this year and last year is that when we were on fire early on, we were even worse defensively than we are right now. AFAIK, we are doing a much better job at limiting high danger chances than we were last year.
SPF6ty9
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I did...who could have expected it would be so difficult to replace Adrian Peterson's 50 goals per year?
To think the Rangers are doing this without Kreider and Buchnevich is impressive.
Yes, they need help on the blueline.
But if the offense stays reasonably close to what it is now, and there goalie tandem continue as it is over the past 10-12 games, there is no doubt they will get a D man towards the end of the season.
That Skjei is playing so well helps in spades.
I guess the shades have been removed from the "closed window..."
Yes, they need help on the blueline.
But if the offense stays reasonably close to what it is now, and there goalie tandem continue as it is over the past 10-12 games, there is no doubt they will get a D man towards the end of the season.
That Skjei is playing so well helps in spades.
I guess the shades have been removed from the "closed window..."
will1066
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Likely many of them, seeing how they are getting ridiculously open and high-percentage scoring chances, generated by near-psychic and tic-tac-toe passing, in each game.
Offensively, on mostly 5 on 5, they're beating opponents every which way... lateral passing, odd-mans, breakaways. Their PP still needs to be better. The current rate is definitely unsustainable but I don't see them dipping drastically. Their goals are coming off offensive fundamentals and not simply lucky shooting or puck luck.
Feed Me A Stray Cat
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Not to take anything away from what the Rangers have done, because points are points and they've earned them, but they're shooting at 13.0% at ES.
The best shooting team at ES last year was the Rangers at 9.0%. The previous year it was Tampa at 9.0%. The previous year Anaheim at 9.8%.
The Rangers are going to be in for some pain when the shooting regression comes. Adjusting 13.0% down to 9.0% takes away 16 of their goals so far. And I suspect their shooting percentage the rest of the way will be below 9.0%.
The best shooting team at ES last year was the Rangers at 9.0%. The previous year it was Tampa at 9.0%. The previous year Anaheim at 9.8%.
The Rangers are going to be in for some pain when the shooting regression comes. Adjusting 13.0% down to 9.0% takes away 16 of their goals so far. And I suspect their shooting percentage the rest of the way will be below 9.0%.
WesMcCauley
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I seriously believe that our defense is good enough to win if we played with Clendening instead of Girardi. It isnt the best but its strong enough to have a good chance with the offensive depth that we have.
Mcdonagh-Holden
Staal-Clendening
Skjei-Klein
Its not great but its not bad at all. Only weak position is Holden at the first pair but he doesnt anchor Mcdonagh, he just isnt very good but he is decent. Girardi is the biggest anchor in the league and if we keep playing him big minutes we will lose alot of games in the playoffs.
Feed Me A Stray Cat
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Unless you believe that this year's Rangers team is the best team in the modern era at creating scoring chances, their goals will come down drastically.
ES Shooting Percentage Leaders:
15-16: NY Rangers (9.0%)
14-15: Tampa Bay (9.0%)
13-14: Anaheim (9.8%)
12-13: Toronto (10.6%) - 48 game season with higher variance due to small sample
11-12: Tampa Bay (9.7%)
10-11: Dallas (8.7%)
09-10: Washington (10.4%)
08-09: Pittsburgh (9.8%)
07-08: Ottawa (9.0%)
Average of 9.6%. The only two seasons with teams above 10.0% were the lockout shortened season and the ridiculous 2010 Capitals team.
The Rangers are at 13.0% right now. Teams simply cannot sustain even close to that in the NHL. Adjusting 13.0% down to 9.0%, while holding shots constant, results in a 31% goal reduction.
WesMcCauley
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Sure take away 16 of our goals but we have won by tons of goals in many of the games. Take away four goals from our 6-1 win over Tampa, 4 goals from our 5-0 win over Blues, 4 goals from our 7-2 win last night and 2 goals from our 5-2 wins over Boston and Jets and we still win all of the games. I am not worried about our offense at all. Obviously we will not average 4,24 goals per game all season but we will keep scoring alot of goals, pretty sure about that.
The problem is that we will start leaking goals if we keep playing like this because we get outshot by alot of shot a times, specially with Girardi on the ice. Unless he gets limited minutes on the 3rd pair or is scratched, we will start losing games because of him.
Our shooting% is high but we are scoring 4,24 goals per game on average. If it drops by 1 goal per game to 3,24 we will still win alot of games. We are scoring almost 1 goal more per game than the 2nd most scoring team in the league! Ofc our shooting% is high. We also have tons of high% scoring chances which obviously is a reason for why our shooting% is so high. We will not keep it up but its much easier to score on a 20% shot than a 5% shot.
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