Hypothetical Russia WJC

jcbio11

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Are you trying to say that it would be more correct to compare the performance of the teams that played to the performance of the team that didn't play?

As for how long I'd say until there is a notable drop off in talent producing comparing to those years, as being a WJC powerhouse is about the ability to produce elite talent on a consistent basis, as you just can't win the WJC without it (doesn't mean that you're guaranteed to win it though and that's what makes the WJC exciting). And yes, the current state of hockey is that elite hockey talent is consistently produced by 5 countries (with all respect to Czechia there had been a bit of a drop off in that area particularly for 2001-2003 borns, but hopefully they are getting back on the right track), therefore if a team like Slovakia has a strong crop in some year and wins a gold I don't think it will be enough to be considered them suddenly becoming a powerhouse, but like 5 years of consistently contending for gold even without one would mean more in that regard.
I'm saying to be considered a powerhouse at this level you need to have the gold medals to show for it. That's all.

3 teams have combined for the last 10 tourney wins. In fact, those 3 teams have combined for the last 12 gold medals.

So yes, I'm calling them powerhouses.
 

Caser

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I'm saying to be considered a powerhouse at this level you need to have the gold medals to show for it. That's all.

3 teams have combined for the last 10 tourney wins. In fact, those 3 teams have combined for the last 12 gold medals.

So yes, I'm calling them powerhouses.
Obviously you are free to have your own opinion, but I honestly can't think of any hockey fan aside of you and EyeOfRa who currently would think of Finland as the WJC powerhouse and wouldn't have Sweden in the same tier.
 

jcbio11

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Obviously you are free to have your own opinion, but I honestly can't think of any hockey fan aside of you and EyeOfRa who currently would think of Finland as the WJC powerhouse and wouldn't have Sweden in the same tier.
My tier list in case you're interested. I consider the ability to go all the way to be crucial. Being strong on paper isn't enough.

Tier A WJC countries: Canada, USA, Finland (aka powerhouse countries)
Tier A- : Sweden
Tier B: Czechia
Tier B-: Slovakia, Switzerland
Tier C: The rest, I believe all of them have the elevator status, none of them are consistently in the elite division

Banned tier: Russia
 

Bocephus86

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Russia is welcome to come back to these tournaments, it's entirely in their own control. Stop invading their neighbor, withdraw to international boarders, pay reparations. Once they do that then they'll be back IMO, weird to complain about a ban that is 100% in control of the banned nation.
 

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