Hypothetical Russia “4 nation” team

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Let’s pretend the NHL ignored the IIHF ban and allowed Russians to participate.

Clearly, only active NHL players are allowed.

What’s the roster you think Russia will ice ?

My take:

Artemi Panarin - Evgeny Malkin (A) - Nikita Kucherov (A)
Kirill Kaprizov - Ivan Barbashev - Andrei Svechnikov
Alex Ovechkin (C) - Pavel Buchnevich - Kirill Marchenko
Matvei Michkov - Vladislav Namestnikov - Dmitry Voronkov

Vladislav Gavrikov - Mikhail Sergachev
Artem Zub - Ivan Provorov
Alexander Romanov - Dmitry Orlov

Igor Shestyorkin
Andrei Vasilevsky
Ilya Sorokin

Glaring holes are centers and the lack of good puck moving offensive defensemen.
 

Czechboy

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Let’s pretend the NHL ignored the IIHF ban and allowed Russians to participate.

Clearly, only active NHL players are allowed.

What’s the roster you think Russia will ice ?

My take:

Artemi Panarin - Evgeny Malkin (A) - Nikita Kucherov (A)
Kirill Kaprizov - Ivan Barbashev - Andrei Svechnikov
Alex Ovechkin (C) - Pavel Buchnevich - Kirill Marchenko
Matvei Michkov - Vladislav Namestnikov - Dmitry Voronkov

Vladislav Gavrikov - Mikhail Sergachev
Artem Zub - Ivan Provorov
Alexander Romanov - Dmitry Orlov

Igor Shestyorkin
Andrei Vasilevsky
Ilya Sorokin

Glaring holes are centers and the lack of good puck moving offensive defensemen.
Goaltending is a 12 out of 10
D is an 8 out of 10.. I'd like to see mintyukov
Wings are a 10
C is probably a 5

My comparables are us, Sweden and canada
 
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HockeyScotty

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Let’s pretend the NHL ignored the IIHF ban and allowed Russians to participate.

Clearly, only active NHL players are allowed.

What’s the roster you think Russia will ice ?

My take:

Artemi Panarin - Evgeny Malkin (A) - Nikita Kucherov (A)
Kirill Kaprizov - Ivan Barbashev - Andrei Svechnikov
Alex Ovechkin (C) - Pavel Buchnevich - Kirill Marchenko
Matvei Michkov - Vladislav Namestnikov - Dmitry Voronkov

Vladislav Gavrikov - Mikhail Sergachev
Artem Zub - Ivan Provorov
Alexander Romanov - Dmitry Orlov

Igor Shestyorkin
Andrei Vasilevsky
Ilya Sorokin

Glaring holes are centers and the lack of good puck moving offensive defensemen.
Glaring miss on Val Nichushkin on the wing also; probably drops Voronkov out.

The 3rd line listed would get caved in defensively; I would balance them out more with Panarin/Kucherov on different lines opposite snipers (swap Panarin and Kaprizov for example).

Puck-moving D to consider:
Mintyukov (ANA)
Zamula (PHI)
Gulyayev (COL) - would be one for 2026 and beyond.

Sergachev, Provorov, and Orlov are solid break-out puck movers and shooters from the point and with the wingers on that team that's about all you need from D.

Zadorov could be a 7th D consideration also.
 
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VistamarCroissants

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Let’s pretend the NHL ignored the IIHF ban and allowed Russians to participate.

Clearly, only active NHL players are allowed.

What’s the roster you think Russia will ice ?

My take:

Artemi Panarin - Evgeny Malkin (A) - Nikita Kucherov (A)
Kirill Kaprizov - Ivan Barbashev - Andrei Svechnikov
Alex Ovechkin (C) - Pavel Buchnevich - Kirill Marchenko
Matvei Michkov - Vladislav Namestnikov - Dmitry Voronkov

Vladislav Gavrikov - Mikhail Sergachev
Artem Zub - Ivan Provorov
Alexander Romanov - Dmitry Orlov

Igor Shestyorkin
Andrei Vasilevsky
Ilya Sorokin

Glaring holes are centers and the lack of good puck moving offensive defensemen.


I'd pick Bobrovsky instead of Sorokin.

And Nichushkin on the 4th line. Panarin can be leveraged as a center to add more depth at the pivot
 

Kshahdoo

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Weak at centers and d

Very strong wingers and goalkeepers

Defence is ok. Gavrikov and Zub are top defensive defensemen, who aren't bad in moving the puck. Sergachev, Provorov, Orlov, Nikishin know something about offence. You don't need a bunch of 1Ds to have a competent blue line, especially with so many great goalies and forwards.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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I think that’s better than Sweden and Finland, even if it has deficiencies. Sweden relies a lot on Zibanejad and Pettersson who’ve been terrible for like six months or more. Finland has one good defenseman.

Whether it would be better than USA or Canada, probably not for like an 82 game season, but a series or even one game, having that type of scoring talent and goaltending could see them pull the upset.
 

WayTooCold

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Canada - Russia is always a classic clash. Russia need to get their asses back so Canada have worthy opponent.

Russia rarely wins gold. But they medal. For Canada it's gold or bust. If we lose semifinal. Our tournament is over. Bronze medal games are not our forte.

Right now I would rather see a best of 7 series against USA all stars than these filler countries.
 

Eye of Ra

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Canada - Russia is always a classic clash. Russia need to get their asses back so Canada have worthy opponent.

Russia rarely wins gold. But they medal. For Canada it's gold or bust. If we lose semifinal. Our tournament is over. Bronze medal games are not our forte.

Right now I would rather see a best of 7 series against USA all stars than these filler countries.
russia did not medal in world cup 2016, olympics 2014, olympics 2010, olympics 2006. their last medal was in 2002 olympics. in the 00s Sweden and Finland have done much better than Russia have in best on best tournaments. Not sure what you mean that Russia is Canadas only worthy opponent.
 

Levshunov

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Kaprizov - Kuznetsov - Kucherov
Panarin - Malkin - Svechnikov
Ovechkin (C) - Barbashev - Marchenko
Buchnevich - Namestnikov - Voronkov
Michkov,Chinakhov

Orlov - Provorov
Sergachev - Gavrikov
Romanov - Zub
Nikishin - Kulikov

Shestyorkin
Vasilevsky
Bobrovskiy
 

WayTooCold

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russia did not medal in world cup 2016, olympics 2014, olympics 2010, olympics 2006. their last medal was in 2002 olympics. in the 00s Sweden and Finland have done much better than Russia have in best on best tournaments. Not sure what you mean that Russia is Canadas only worthy opponent.

Hard for them to medal because Canada wins everything.

Sweden has good D but bad forwards. Finland is the opposite. I would combine Sweden and Finland in the same country.
Then rest of the Europe as 1 country. Russia would be added to team Europe. They are pretty weak alone.

Now we have a competitive tournament:

1. Canada
2. USA
3. Sweden+Finland
4. Europe
 

Eye of Ra

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Hard for them to medal because Canada wins everything.

Sweden has good D but bad forwards. Finland is the opposite. I would combine Sweden and Finland in the same country.
Then rest of the Europe as 1 country. Russia would be added to team Europe. They are pretty weak alone.

Now we have a competitive tournament:

1. Canada
2. USA
3. Sweden+Finland
4. Europe
Yeah Forsberg, Nylander, Raymond, kempe, Pettersson, Zibanejad are bad forwards.:laugh:
 

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