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Hutson's next contract

Victoire HuGo said:
I never said he's worth Suzuki money and spoiler alert he's making less. At 8 years Slaf wasn't going to come cheap and once again you're looking at things the wrong way. Cap % is what negotiations are centered around now. That's the way you can compare apples to apples.

Also Slafkovsky will be probably improve his offensive numbers this year now that his play has picked up and he's back on 1st line. You'd be looking at low 8s if trying to lock him up for 8 years.
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I mean let's be honest, he's playing with Suzuki because he couldn't carry other lines. I just think we should have waited for Slaf being more consistent. He's often late on plays and needs to be more aggressive with his size. Suzuki is 5'11 and he hits like a 6'3 player
 
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HabsWhiteKnightLOL said:
I mean let's be honest, he's playing with Suzuki because he couldn't carry other lines. I just think we should have waited for Slaf being more consistent. He's often late on plays and needs to be more aggressive with his size. Suzuki is 5'11 and he hits like a 6'3 player
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The dude is 20 years old, I think that shouldn't be overlooked.
 
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Victoire HuGo said:
Hello all,

Quiet time before tomorrow's game. Some people are into hockey pools, I guess into hockey polls.

With Hutson's outstanding start of his career. What do you expect to be done for his next contract? He is eligible to sign an extension this summer.

So far it seems like management's MO to get a jump start and sign their guys a year ahead of their deal expiring (Slafkovsky and Guhle).

Will they wait till next year?
Will they go the full 8 years?
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Caufield is probably the better comparable because like Hutson he negotiated his way into burning the first year of his ELC by playing a small number of games in year 1. And whether planned or not it meant Caufield, Slaf, and Guhle all got two (injuries aside) full years in the NHL before signing the extension.

So I would expect something similar where they wait until next year so that they've seen him in the NHL for 2 years. Although they may like to get him at Suzuki money, the rising cap as well as his good play will probably mean he breaks Suzuki's cap hit on a 8 year deal.

And let's face it, keeping all our stars/core at under 8m because of Suzuki was never going to last forever, and it was already broken with Laine anyways. The goal of Suzuki as the benchmark wasn't never pay anyone a dime more then Suzuki because he's the best and you have to be better then him to even think of asking for more. It was about instilling the mindset of hey leave some money on the table and we can go out and build a better team, and part of that means treating the players with intelligence and respect and recognizing the cap has risen significantly and 7.8m isn't what it was when Suzuki signed his deal.

In terms of timing one thing to keep in mind is playoffs. As a small guy Lane will always be questioned until he proves he can have success there. It's like the reverse of innocent until proven guilty. If we make the playoffs this year and Lane has a strong performance that probably pushes Hughes into wanting to sign him early, if we miss the playoffs or Lane struggles during them then that probably pushes us into waiting the extra year.
 
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Redux91 said:
No I get it
Trust me

Still not gonna happen for a few years


Sure
Doesn't work like that
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You’re going to be in for a surprise when the contract extension is announced.

Expect 6 years at 7.5 min, anything 8 years long the cap hit starts with an 8.

A quick look at Hughes, Makar and Faber are instant giveaways.

Hutson has no reason to sign for less. The benchmark is set and he’s delivering the goods.
 
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HabsWhiteKnightLOL said:
I agree with this but at the same time he's been in the nhl for 3 years already. I think the big mistake was to sign him right away after his draft. Shouldn't have started in the NHL
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He did start one season too early.......not on him. It was way too much, but surely they discussed this, and let him stay and play. Last seaosn he was spot on, and had a good season.........slow start this season, but still heading towards 50 pts again.....

155 games played, and has 81 pts
50 pts last season.......
Contract has not kicked in yet.......
He is 20 and wont be 21 until the season ends.............the contract is a very solid gamble, and he will be a good player for us, for a long time.....

Frankenheimer said:
Be ready to pay 11-12 in 3 years then.
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The agents never lose in these deals eh............I am very confident HuGo will make the right decision.
It does take 2 to tango, but Lane is already one of the Cool Kids on the Habs.
 
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It will look similar to Guhle IMO. By the way, still not used to no capfriendly, what's your best site? I find puckpedia not that friendly...
 
GrandBison said:
It will look similar to Guhle IMO. By the way, still not used to no capfriendly, what's your best site? I find puckpedia not that friendly...
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Guhle wasn't signed for 8 years because he had already been often injured.

Habs would be crazy not to sign Hutson for max lenght. Considering Hutson is a client of Hughes's former firm, a firm he started, both Habs and Hutson will get what they want, so anything less than 8 years would be surprising to me.
 
« Adam Fox signed a 7 year, $66,500,000 contract with the New York Rangers on Nov. 1, 2021. The contract has a cap hit of $9,500,000 »

Anything under $9M AAV would be a good deal for the Habs.
 
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Most ideal contract would be something like 7x9m 8x9m. This kid is good
 
i mean i'm pretty sure he's the best Hab any of us have seen play this millennium, that should say a lot

we're talking about a perennial top 5 dman in the league for the next 10 years
 
TT1 said:
i mean i'm pretty sure he's the best Hab any of us have seen play this millennium, that should say a lot

we're talking about a perennial top 5 dman in the league for the next 10 years
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Carey Price was at one point the best player in the league. I'm not sure Hutson hits that level. But I suspect he'll have a much healthier career.

Subban at his best was absolutely a HOF caliber player. I'd say Hutson will likely be at least as good, and that's very high praise as Subban was a top three blueliner in the league.

And we haven't even seen Demidov yet. :laugh:
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
Carey Price was at one point the best player in the league. I'm not sure Hutson hits that level. But I suspect he'll have a much healthier career.

Subban at his best was absolutely a HOF caliber player. I'd say Hutson will likely be at least as good, and that's very high praise as Subban was a top three blueliner in the league.

And we haven't even seen Demidov yet. :laugh:
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i'm talking about skaters (D and F), i've seen both Subban and Hutson and Subban is nowhere close to Hutson, personally i'd take Markov ahead of PK even

a lot of it is projection but when i watch Hutson in his rookie year vs PK in his best seasons (lockout season/playoff runs) i'd rather have Hutson on my team, Hutson's defensive play/IQ is very underrated

i'm pretty high on Hutson tho, i consider him a top 10 dman right now
 
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Let's be honest, players want to capitalize on their situation. Lane probably wants to sign his big deal when he's around 27-28. Like Matthews, he's not gonna take the longest term as it would take him to 30. He'll probably take 6 years at around 7-8 mil and resign at 28 to a mammoth contract
 
McGuires Corndog said:
Hutson is already better than Guhle, by a fair margin.
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Exact opposite type of player and both needed moving forward.

If I need a goal, Lane is on the ice. If I need a stop, Guhle is on the ice. Perfect compliment to each other and both just as effective in their respective roles with the team.
 
A bit too soon. Hutson likes to play it risky. Look at him play. If you think he signs the bargain 2 years prior lol?
 
TT1 said:
i'm talking about skaters (D and F), i've seen both Subban and Hutson and Subban is nowhere close to Hutson, personally i'd take Markov ahead of PK even
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Subban was a top three blueliner in the league and an absolute beast in the playoffs. Markov was never either of those.

I think you’re short selling Subban a lot. He was on a HOF trajectory before injuries messed him up.
TT1 said:
a lot of it is projection but when i watch Hutson in his rookie year vs PK in his best seasons (lockout season/playoff runs) i'd rather have Hutson on my team, Hutson's defensive play/IQ is very underrated

i'm pretty high on Hutson tho, i consider him a top 10 dman right now
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Different blueliners. Subban was a lot bigger and more physical. His rushes were spectacular. Much better shot. They’re different players but ultimately I think you’re probably right that Hutson will wind up better in the long run. That’s a huge compliment to Hutson.

I’ve said this before but Hutson plays the game in a way I’ve never seen before. I’ve heard the comparisons with Adam Fox but haven’t watched enough of him to say. He is very Markov-like in terms of vision but he’s really different stylistically.

Will Hutson be able to elevate his game in the playoffs? Like Carey Price, Subban’s numbers actually went up in the postseason. I think Hutson has a similar mental makeup. He’s not as cocky as Subban (nobody is) but he’s a gamer and exudes all kinds of confidence. That was something that Markov didn’t seem to have and he’d shrink away when the playoffs came around.
 
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