HURRICANES LOUNGE XLVIII

[TheGreenTBer]

not gonna lie, it's location dependent but not entirely inaccurate.

I remember Roboturner mentioning how Popeyes in Louisiana was way better than it was anywhere else.

Of my limited experiences with both, Bo's is on average better.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Bojangles has always been highly highly location dependent. As far back as I can remember, they have always straddled the line between excellent and horrible, depending on which one you’re at.

There are certain locations, like the one on Western Blvd, where the experience is godly.

There are a lot of other locations, like pretty much any of them in the hood or on the interstate, where the service is Popeye’s tier and the food was made 2 hours ago.

That’s part of the appeal of the whole thing. Much like Popeye’s or Waffle House, it’s a roll of the dice and eventually you figure out which locations are the good ones.

Except with Waffle House you're basically guaranteed to see some shit if you're there after midnight

 

[MinJaBen]

I remember Roboturner mentioning how Popeyes in Louisiana was way better than it was anywhere else.

Of my limited experiences with both, Bo's is on average better.

I also remember that Roboturner had some legendary excrement stories, so I am not sure I would take his word on any food quality reviews.

 

[MinJaBen]

Except with Waffle House you're basically guaranteed to see some shit if you're there after midnight

If you are at Waffle House after midnight, you ARE the shit being seen. Ain't no sober vanilla customers at a Waffle House after midnight.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Except with Waffle House you're basically guaranteed to see some shit if you're there after midnight

I was in a Waffle House here in Durham late one night a few months ago, and there was one dude working the place, presumably the manager. In between serving his couple of customers, he was calling employees on the phone, trying to get anyone to come cover for the dude who clearly just hadn't bothered to show up. He was super upbeat, and then he went into the back and yelled an absolute torrent of obscenities, and then came right back out all peppy again, acting like we all hadn't heard him raging like a lunatic.

Then the other customers left and a bunch of kids came in and sat down, and it was just the kids and me, on opposite sides of the restaurant. The manager dude then came up to me and whispered "these guys might cause trouble. If they do, call the cops." And then he WALKED OUT, leaving me alone with these alleged troublemakers.

The kids seemed like regular kids to me, pretty quiet for 2am, well behaved even. But the manager stood there in the parking lot, watching them through the window and smoking, nobody working the restaurant. I looked out at him, and at some point he looked back at me, pointed to his eyes, and then pointed to the kids.

And this is why I love Waffle House. It's like its own nation of crazy, and every Waffle House is like an embassy.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I was in a Waffle House here in Durham late one night a few months ago, and there was one dude working the place, presumably the manager. In between serving his couple of customers, he was calling employees on the phone, trying to get anyone to come cover for the dude who clearly just hadn't bothered to show up. He was super upbeat, and then he went into the back and yelled an absolute torrent of obscenities, and then came right back out all peppy again, acting like we all hadn't heard him raging like a lunatic.

Then the other customers left and a bunch of kids came in and sat down, and it was just the kids and me, on opposite sides of the restaurant. The manager dude then came up to me and whispered "these guys might cause trouble. If they do, call the cops." And then he WALKED OUT, leaving me alone with these alleged troublemakers.

The kids seemed like regular kids to me, pretty quiet for 2am, well behaved even. But the manager stood there in the parking lot, watching them through the window and smoking, nobody working the restaurant. I looked out at him, and at some point he looked back at me, pointed to his eyes, and then pointed to the kids.

And this is why I love Waffle House. It's like its own nation of crazy, and every Waffle House is like an embassy.

If Atlanta gets another NHL team and they aren't sponsored by Waffle House there will be HELL to pay.

The marketing writes itself. Goalie makes a big save? Jumbotron says "Smothered and Covered." Line brawl? "Hashbrowns and Haymakers." I'm telling you there's something to this.

 

[Borsig]

If Atlanta gets another NHL team and they aren't sponsored by Waffle House there will be HELL to pay.

The marketing writes itself. Goalie makes a big save? Jumbotron says "Smothered and Covered." Line brawl? "Hashbrowns and Haymakers." I'm telling you there's something to this.

chicfila

 

[TheGreenTBer]

chicfila

The thing that makes Waffle House a good fit IMO is that it's balls-out insane and I'd argue that you have to have a little bit of crazy to be am elite hockey player (if you're a goalie you have to be a LOT crazy.)

I feel like Chik-Fil-A customers, at least at the only location in my region, just don't misbehave nearly at the rate they do at WaHo? Do I have a false understanding of Chik-Fil-A?

 

[Borsig]

CFA was founded in Atl.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

CFA was founded in Atl.

So was Waffle House.

(Norcross if you want to be picky.)

 

[TheGreenTBer]

CFA was founded in Atl.

So was Waffle House.

(Norcross if you want to be picky.)

They also might not have founded terrible traffic but they certainly have it in spades.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/22/tech/workday-ai-hiring-discrimination-lawsuit

I f***ing knew it. Last year when I was out of work, I spammed hundreds of applications out to various roles across the industry for jobs that I was more than qualified for. And about 90% of the time I'm getting automated rejections left and right because I didn't meet some bullshit minimum requirement they had. Mind you, this was a field I had been in for 15 years, with excellent performance, having moved up through ranks. I had one recruiter tell me it was probably because I had just turned 40 that I was getting denied.

So to now see Workday, the primary application those in IT use for hiring right now, charged in a class action lawsuit that they are actively discriminating against people 40 and over though their algorithms. Yeah, I f***ing knew it. And I called it out last year as well.

I hope they get absolutely raked over the coals for it.

 

[DaveG]

god does this explain a LOT about my job searches recently, drop a note if there's some class action shit because man would I like a piece of that.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

god does this explain a LOT about my job searches recently, drop a note if there's some class action shit because man would I like a piece of that.

Right now its a collective action suit, which means you need to already have a suit out there against Workday to be a part. Hopefully they go class action, because I'd love to join as well.

But Mobley claims that he was rejected time and again — often without being offered an interview — despite having graduated cum laude from Morehouse College and his nearly decade of experience in financial, IT and customer service jobs. In one instance, he submitted a job application at 12:55 a.m. and received a rejection notice less than an hour later at 1:50 a.m., according to court documents.

Another plaintiff, Jill Hughes, said she similarly received automated rejections for hundreds of roles “often received within a few hours of applying or at odd times outside of business hours … indicating a human did not review the applications,” court documents state. In some cases, she claims those rejection emails erroneously stated that she did not meet the minimum requirements for the role.

“Algorithmic decision-making and data analytics are not, and should not be assumed to be, race neutral, disability neutral, or age neutral,” Mobley’s original complaint states. “Too often, they reinforce and even exacerbate historical and existing discrimination.”

Hilke Schellmann, author of the book “The Algorithm” about the use of AI in hiring, who is not involved in the Workday lawsuit, recounted a situation in which a different resume evaluation tool awarded more points to resumes with the word “baseball” over ones that listed “softball.”

“It was some random job that had nothing to do with sports and probably what happens is that of the resumes the parser analyzed, maybe there were a bunch of people who had ‘baseball’ on their resume and the tool did a statistical analysis and found out, yeah, it’s totally significant,” Schellmann said on CNN’s Terms of Service podcast earlier this year.

The AI “wouldn’t understand, ‘wait a second, baseball has nothing to do with the job,’” she said.

Mobley’s complaint alleges that Workday’s technology works in a similar way.

“If Workday’s algorithmic decision-making tools observe that a client-employer disfavors certain candidates who are members of a protected class, it will decrease the rate at which it recommends those candidates,” the complaint states.

Basically, the company typically hires more younger people than old. So the AI learns this as a desired trait for the overall hiring practice and starts auto-rejecting anyone over a certain age regardless of qualification, and it now appears that age to be 40.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/22/tech/workday-ai-hiring-discrimination-lawsuit

I f***ing knew it. Last year when I was out of work, I spammed hundreds of applications out to various roles across the industry for jobs that I was more than qualified for. And about 90% of the time I'm getting automated rejections left and right because I didn't meet some bullshit minimum requirement they had. Mind you, this was a field I had been in for 15 years, with excellent performance, having moved up through ranks. I had one recruiter tell me it was probably because I had just turned 40 that I was getting denied.

So to now see Workday, the primary application those in IT use for hiring right now, charged in a class action lawsuit that they are actively discriminating against people 40 and over though their algorithms. Yeah, I f***ing knew it. And I called it out last year as well.

I hope they get absolutely raked over the coals for it.

I am 40 or over and in tech, and I am extremely selective for which jobs I apply specifically for reasons like this.

I was a DoD employee that took the deferred resignation recently because I was working remotely and could not comply with the Return-To-Office order (I never wanted to leave federal service; I took my sworn oath seriously but I couldn't relocate to my home site), and just started with a private company. I was extremely lucky to get an offer and took it immediately. I don't regret it no matter how much I miss being a DoD civilian; if a door is being forced shut against your control, use your time to open a new door, you know?

 

[raynman]

I am 40 or over and in tech, and I am extremely selective for which jobs I apply specifically for reasons like this.

I was a DoD employee that took the deferred resignation recently because I was working remotely and could not comply with the Return-To-Office order (I never wanted to leave federal service; I took my sworn oath seriously but I couldn't relocate to my home site), and just started with a private company. I was extremely lucky to get an offer and took it immediately. I don't regret it no matter how much I miss being a DoD civilian; if a door is being forced shut against your control, use your time to open a new door, you know?

We lost a bunch to the DRP. A lot were under 30, some even 13s already. I didn’t have the balls to do it because I’m afraid to look for jobs again at 40.

 

[skipnjump]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/22/tech/workday-ai-hiring-discrimination-lawsuit

I f***ing knew it. Last year when I was out of work, I spammed hundreds of applications out to various roles across the industry for jobs that I was more than qualified for. And about 90% of the time I'm getting automated rejections left and right because I didn't meet some bullshit minimum requirement they had. Mind you, this was a field I had been in for 15 years, with excellent performance, having moved up through ranks. I had one recruiter tell me it was probably because I had just turned 40 that I was getting denied.

So to now see Workday, the primary application those in IT use for hiring right now, charged in a class action lawsuit that they are actively discriminating against people 40 and over though their algorithms. Yeah, I f***ing knew it. And I called it out last year as well.

I hope they get absolutely raked over the coals for it.

Interesting. The State is putting it in now.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I’m sick as hell and with the weather looking like it’s not going to improve for most of the week, neither will my condition.

Why the hell haven’t we found a cure for the cold yet? It’s something literally everyone has to deal with at some point in their life, we all agree it sucks, put the smarty pants to work and rid humanity of this blight.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

We lost a bunch to the DRP. A lot were under 30, some even 13s already. I didn’t have the balls to do it because I’m afraid to look for jobs again at 40.

I was career conditional; my entire career before this was in private industry.

I think if I were either career'ed or not remote, I wouldn't have taken the DRP. But I was both. I didn't like my chances of surviving the RTO and at least one incoming RIF.

Thankfully I was prepared for this. My skills (DevSecOps, SDLC, etc.) translate well to the private sector...at the moment, anyway.

 

[raynman]

I was career conditional; my entire career before this was in private industry.

I think if I were either career'ed or not remote, I wouldn't have taken the DRP. But I was both. I didn't like my chances of surviving the RTO and at least one incoming RIF.

Thankfully I was prepared for this. My skills (DevSecOps, SDLC, etc.) translate well to the private sector...at the moment, anyway.

I get it, RTO and the threat of RIFs is such a crock of shit. Glad you were able to find something quickly.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I get it, RTO and the threat of RIFs is such a crock of shit. Glad you were able to find something quickly.

My squad (well, ex-squad now) had about 15 remote people. Three, including me, took the DRP. One more took DRP+VERA, and one took VERA alone.

My resume is full of tech titles, experiences, teamwork and adaptability. I can be plugged into a lot of slots and make it work (unlike in my sex life) for better or worse. I have my specialties but I think I'm reasonably versatile and for some reason appear to have a knack for diffusing workplace conflict? Some of my ex-co-workers, especially the scientists, have infinitely more specialized careers and they are going to find it very hard in this market if they can't either find a place to work or they get a squad-wide remote work exemption (which I doubt; I've asked questions at the 3-star level and they don't think exemptions are coming unless your home base/fort is full, which mine was not.)

My philosophy was the following: if decisions are being made above me that I can't control, I can either bitch and complain, or I can be prepared and take care of my family like an adult. To be honest, I chose to take care of my family AND bitch and complain, but the chain of command is the chain of command and I worked for a military organization. The difference with the civs is we can choose to resign rather than obeying an order we cannot obey, but we are still expected to obey orders otherwise...and that's exactly what I did while I was there and how I handled my departure.

To be honest, I got emotional at my exit interview with my commander. I never could have served as active duty for medical reasons, but this meant a ton to me and I was so bitter that I had to leave. I felt like what I did, mattered. Stuff we worked on helped the warfighter and I'll be damned if that didn't give me pride. In my own way I felt like I was contributing...and my commander could tell my feelings were genuine. But I have to let it go.

 

[Borsig]

Meh RTO is working fine for my government agency, then again, I can't work from home as I am a field site specific position.

I guess working from home is fine for some things but not what we do. We don't miss any of the people who refused to come back to the site that I can tell.

These people filter themselves out. We had one quit because he demanded to see documentation that everyone was getting vax and boosters in the site office building I am in. Imagine the audacity of demanding personal medical records of co-workers. He weeded him self out a couple years ago.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Meh RTO is working fine for my government agency, then again, I can't work from home as I am a field site specific position.

Yeah that's apples and oranges to my situation.

I guess working from home is fine for some things but not what we do. We don't miss any of the people who refused to come back to the site that I can tell.

We would be crippled without our remote workers and it would be borderline the end of that whole unit.

These people filter themselves out. We had one quit because he demanded to see documentation that everyone was getting vax and boosters in the site office building I am in. Imagine the audacity of demanding personal medical records of co-workers. He weeded him self out a couple years ago.

I'm not sure if you're targeting me here (I don't think you are) and I hope not because I didn't say anything about the validity of the Executive Order itself. Whether or not it's a good idea is a matter of opinion and is particular to a specific organization. In my personal case it destroys my squad's efficiency, costs the government additional dollars (other than the culling of the herd), strongly negatively affects quality of life and is driving away highly educated people that work hard on vital matters of national security.

It might work for your group but it's ruining mine and some of the stuff they do is extremely important.

 

[cptjeff]

I’m sick as hell and with the weather looking like it’s not going to improve for most of the week, neither will my condition.

Why the hell haven’t we found a cure for the cold yet? It’s something literally everyone has to deal with at some point in their life, we all agree it sucks, put the smarty pants to work and rid humanity of this blight.

Viral diseases aren't curable, and the cold is a huge range of mild viruses, not just one thing, making a vaccine hard. But you know that fancy new mRNA stuff we used for the COVID vaccines is supposed to work really well for addressing a lot of those cold viruses in testing, the question is getting a mix that inoculates against enough different viruses to be effective.

There was an interesting idea during COVID that IIRC was being funded by the DOD where there was a 20 sided molecule for a vaccine where each face could be programmed to inoculate against a different virus. It wasn't progressing as fast as the mRNA stuff that wound up working best and fastest, but there was a lot of talk that that could be the base for a real cold vaccine- you didn't need that for COVID, where you only had 1 or 2 dominant strains at any given moment, but they were just throwing money at any novel vaccine technologies they could find in hopes that something worked. Which obviously paid off with some really effective COVID vaccines, but also advanced the science on a bunch of stuff that didn't crack through but very well might with further research. Once the COVID vaccines were identified for production, the Warp Speed funding for the other stuff disappeared, but funding to keep that research going with stuff like NIH grants could keep things chugging along in the background, if we still have an NIH.

Of course, politics and nutjob conspiracy theories have now turned half the population against the development of new and better vaccines, so don't expect those programs to be funded for a number of years.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Viral diseases aren't curable, and the cold is a huge range of mild viruses, not just one thing, making a vaccine hard. But you know that fancy new mRNA stuff we used for the COVID vaccines is supposed to work really well for addressing a lot of those cold viruses in testing, the question is getting a mix that inoculates against enough different viruses to be effective.

There was an interesting idea during COVID that IIRC was being funded by the DOD where there was a tetrahedral molecule for a vaccine where each face could be programmed to inoculate against a different virus. It wasn't progressing as fast as the mRNA stuff that wound up working best and fastest, but there was a lot of talk that that could be the base for a real cold vaccine- you didn't need that for COVID, where you only had 1 or 2 dominant strains at any given moment, but they were just throwing money at any novel vaccine technologies they could find in hopes that something worked. Which obviously paid off with some really effective COVID vaccines, but also advanced the science on a bunch of stuff that didn't crack through but very well might with further research. Once the COVID vaccines were identified for production, the Warp Speed funding for the other stuff disappeared, but funding to keep that research going with stuff like NIH grants could keep things chugging along in the background, if we still have an NIH.

Of course, politics and nutjob conspiracy theories have now turned half the population against the development of new and better vaccines, so don't expect those programs to be funded for a number of years.

So in my case it appears that cheering for the wrong hockey team must be a virus

Honestly that checks out