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Hurricanes have 14 straight ECF losses now- except they really don't.

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This traces back to the 2009 PO, resumes in the 2019 PO, and then 2023- and of course the first two games this year. And a fun fact- the 2099 and 2019 ECF losses are the book ends of 9 straight seasons of not making the PO

Sure, the franchise has lost 14 straight, but this current team hasn't, yet many posters keep on mentioning it as if this is 14 straight losses under the direction of RBA with this current roster (accounting for normal season-to-seson changes teams go through).

There's a thread calking RBA a fraud, people saying the seeding needs to be changed because it's causing bad match ups in the ECF, the Hurricanes are in fact a bad team etc

Maybe they're a really good team who just have the shit luck of having to deal with an even better team in Florida? The Panthers are after all the reigning champions after making the finals the season before that.

Are they shitting the bed right now? Yes. But teams go through that, it's just their misfortune it's happening at an inopportune time. Maybe it is a reflection of something wrong in their DNA, but people need to calm down and take a little more nuanced approach to analyzing the situation.
 
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PistolPete said:
This traces back to the 2009 PO, resumes in the 2019 PO, and then 2023- and of course the first two games this year. And a fun fact- the 2099 and 2019 ECF losses are the book ends of 9 straight seasons of not making the PO

Sure, the franchise has lost 14 straight, but this current team hasn't, yet many posters keep on mentioning it as if this is 14 straight losses under the direction of RBA with this current roster (accounting for normal season-to-seson changes teams go through).

There's a thread calking RBA a fraud, people saying the seeding needs to be changed because it's causing bad match ups in the ECF, the Hurricanes are in fact a bad team etc

Maybe they're a really good team who just have the shit luck of having to deal with an even better team in Florida? The Panthers are after all the reigning champions after making the finals the season before that.

Are they shitting the bed right now? Yes. But teams go through that, it's just their misfortune it's happening at an inopportune time. Maybe it is a reflection of something wrong in their DNA, but people need to calm down and take a little more nuanced approach to analyzing the situation.
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This basically sums it up, minus the luck. Carolina has a really good team every year. But there are always better teams, so by the time they make it to the ECF they get destroyed.

On one hand how they manage their team means they're always competitive, but never get over the hump. They still have pieces that can potentially extend their window and maybe they'll shift their MO, but I think they wasted Slavin's prime.
 
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PAZ said:
This basically sums it up, minus the luck. Carolina has a really good team every year. But there are always better teams, so by the time they make it to the ECF they get destroyed.

On one hand how they manage their team means they're always competitive, but never get over the hump. They still have pieces that can potentially extend their window and maybe they'll shift their MO, but I think they wasted Slavin's prime.
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i think it speaks to the state of the division more than anything and once they get an opponent from a tougher division they crumble and fall. That is to say that when facing an opponent from another division in a playoffs series they can't compete.

They need goal scorers and gamebreakers. They have none. They can win an occasional game against stronger competition, but in a 7 game series they are clearly lacking and IMO it goes beyond coaching and team make up, its the crappy division propping them up and setting them up for failure on a bigger stage than they should be on.

Solid team but no gamebreakers. Outclassed in the later rounds.

aka built for the regular season.
 
PistolPete said:
This traces back to the 2009 PO, resumes in the 2019 PO, and then 2023- and of course the first two games this year. And a fun fact- the 2099 and 2019 ECF losses are the book ends of 9 straight seasons of not making the PO

Sure, the franchise has lost 14 straight, but this current team hasn't, yet many posters keep on mentioning it as if this is 14 straight losses under the direction of RBA with this current roster (accounting for normal season-to-seson changes teams go through).

There's a thread calking RBA a fraud, people saying the seeding needs to be changed because it's causing bad match ups in the ECF, the Hurricanes are in fact a bad team etc

Maybe they're a really good team who just have the shit luck of having to deal with an even better team in Florida? The Panthers are after all the reigning champions after making the finals the season before that.

Are they shitting the bed right now? Yes. But teams go through that, it's just their misfortune it's happening at an inopportune time. Maybe it is a reflection of something wrong in their DNA, but people need to calm down and take a little more nuanced approach to analyzing the situation.
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No need to be defensive. It's just a freak stat. Hurricanes are a good team and Rod is a good coach.

People on this forum are just constantly looking for excuses to shit on fanbases. Colorado and Toronto got their share and now it seems like it's Carolina's turn. Whoever loses in the west is next on line. I can already see the threads that will pop, if McDavid does not win a cup.
 
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No need to be defensive. It's just a freak stat. Hurricanes are a good team and Rod is a good coach.

People on this forum are just constantly looking for excuses to shit on fanbases. Colorado and Toronto got their share and now it seems like it's Carolina's turn. Whoever loses in the west is next on line. I can already see the threads that will pop, if McDavid does not win a cup.
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Colorados inability to do anything with such a loaded roster should be talked about though. They should have been thr 2010s hawks, but they've completely wasted that by continuous first round exits. They've gotta be one of the biggest choke artist teams of all time.
 
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In Rod Brind'amour world that's correct.

He was there, he watched the games. They didn't get swept.
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It was a dumb thing to say, but his point was obvious enough. "Swept" typically means a lopsided series where the losing team never stood a chance. The infamous Florida sweep had several grueling games that could have gone either way.
 
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Chootoi said:
This is like saying the Leafs have failed to win the Stanley Cup for 58 years, except they haven't.

Except they have.
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It was a bit tongue in cheek and playing postmodernist with the semantics of team.

When I saw mention of this streak, my first thought was it was all while Brind'Amour was coach, not when BA was himself a player.

Remember the river and changing thing that's a popular philosophical metaphor? Perhaps the same can ve applied to the idea of what a team is vs. a franchise?
 
What a pointless thread. You said a whole lot of nothing, other than you’re mad that people are saying mean things about CAR.

Not everything warrants a “nuanced” discussion, and not everything needs to be analyzed in depth.

Sometimes facts just speak for themselves. In this case, it’s the fact that the Canes have lost 14 straight ECF games.

It is what it is.
 
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