Value of: Huber-DOH

Bond

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Idk, it'd be pretty unprecedented to give that sort of contract to a player coming off a career worst season.
This kind of drop off is also pretty unprecedented. He isn't really a 115 point playre but he also isn't a 50 point player. No way to know now but I bet some GM would still sign him to a 7x9 contract and take the gamble his last 4 seasons are more representative than this one. I am pretty sure you were banging the Gaudreau should get a big raise after his subpar seasons before last year
 

FlyguyOX

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CGY's only option is to start the rebuild and use that contract to help reach the floor for the next 5-8 years
 

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This kind of drop off is also pretty unprecedented. He isn't really a 115 point playre but he also isn't a 50 point player. No way to know now but I bet some GM would still sign him to a 7x9 contract and take the gamble his last 4 seasons are more representative than this one. I am pretty sure you were banging the Gaudreau should get a big raise after his subpar seasons before last year
Well that's because Gaudreau is a much better player than Huberdeau, who was quite clearly being held back by his center.

I don't disagree that he's better than a 50 point player. I think he's more likely in the 60-75 point range. Maybe someone gives him a big deal but idk. It's tough with the way the cap is.
 

DaveG

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Someone was going to give him that extension. Maybe its a mill over, but in FA with multiple bidders prolly not, teams always overpay.

I will again reiterate that one bad season does not turn a guy who had the most assists for a LW in league history into a negative asset. Maybe the contract is a bit much but HAS TO BE massively negative is out to lunch.
You're right at least in that after last year someone was going to throw something that large at him.

But that said as much of an outlier as this year is for him is about how much of an outlier last year was, and the contract he got was based off last season. He's a PPG player, but one-dimensional. He's probably about an 8.5x6m guy on the open market. The extra 2 years and extra 2 million per are what is going to make it tough to move.
 

Bond

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Well that's because Gaudreau is a much better player than Huberdeau, who was quite clearly being held back by his center.

I don't disagree that he's better than a 50 point player. I think he's more likely in the 60-75 point range. Maybe someone gives him a big deal but idk. It's tough with the way the cap is.
I think he gets back to a PPG clip pretty quickly if he wasn't playing in Calgary. Huberdeau is clearly being held back by Sutter and his linemates etc
 

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Some probably terrible ideas:

Huberdeau for Miller

Huberdeau + Markstrom (some retention) for Bob + Duclair

Huberdeau for Josh Anderson
I posted Huberdeau with 1 million retention for Miller and other posters didn't like it. It essentially makes them both 9 million dollar players with Calgary getting out of the deal a year sooner with Miller's playstyle more suited to Calgary and Huberdeau's more Vancouver.
 

Kobe Armstrong

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From Montreal I would offer

Gallagher + Armia + Sean Farrel/Josh Roy + Joel Edmundson or Rem Pitlick (if you want them) + CGY 1st round pick back (Monahan deal)
 

Bond

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From Montreal I would offer

Gallagher + Armia + Sean Farrel/Josh Roy + Joel Edmundson or Rem Pitlick (if you want them) + CGY 1st round pick back (Monahan deal)
I don’t hate it if the Flames decide to throw in the towel and sell off their soon to be UFAs
 

CTHabsfan

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From Montreal I would offer

Gallagher + Armia + Sean Farrel/Josh Roy + Joel Edmundson or Rem Pitlick (if you want them) + CGY 1st round pick back (Monahan deal)
No thank you. Why does a rebuilding team trade for a player who has an 8-year contract beginning next season (as a 30-year-old) for $10.5 million per? Oh that's right, because he's French!!!
 

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I posted Huberdeau with 1 million retention for Miller and other posters didn't like it. It essentially makes them both 9 million dollar players with Calgary getting out of the deal a year sooner with Miller's playstyle more suited to Calgary and Huberdeau's more Vancouver.
Yeah, retention (at that level) or no, Miller's so far been better in the build up to the new contracts, and would still be paid less. I wouldn't be opposed to working out a Huberdeau deal, he's clearly still a great talent, but for a ton of reasons, Miller is the better buy for us.

A trade proposal would be more likely to center on OEL (as the long term cap component) and one of our wingers (Garland or Boeser for sure, maybe Mikheyev or Beauvillier) and probably another roster component from our side. Futures are out, we need those, and I honestly don't see a way to work this around from the Canucks side that won't absolutely piss off Calgary fans.

Huberdeau doesn't really fill a roster need for us either, as yes, an upgrade at forward is swell, our D and goaltending (past Demko) is what needs an upgrade most.
 

Kobe Armstrong

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No thank you. Why does a rebuilding team trade for a player who has an 8-year contract beginning next season (as a 30-year-old) for $10.5 million per? Oh that's right, because he's French!!!

Huberdeau would be making 400k more than Gallagher + Armia combined and would probably contribute ~60 more points than them combined
 

Jeune Poulet

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Keep in mind, one shit year does not a value make,
No but, the whole package is now suspect.

Obscene contract that will end when he is Don Cherry's age, bound to the most obnoxious agent ever, soft play, shitty haircuts and even shittier year.

It's a lot.
 

TheImpatientPanther

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Why would he be in Florida still? He was traded to Calgary.

It was incredibly stupid to sign him to that sort of contract before he ever played a game as a flame. It's kinda funny how they tried to penny pinch with Gaudreau for over a year (until the last minute), a guy with over 600 points as a flame, and then turned around and gave Huberdeau 10.5M the before he stepped foot on the ice.

Now because of that overreaction, they're stuck with an albatross of a contract that is the epitome of untradeable.

Treliving should have gave the big deal to Tkachuk when he wanted to sign, he was the real MVP of the Flames.
 

CTHabsfan

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Huberdeau would be making 400k more than Gallagher + Armia combined and would probably contribute ~60 more points than them combined
Joel Armia's contract is over after the 2024-25 season. Brendan Gallagher's contract expires at the end of the 2026-27 season, with there being a decent chance he winds up on LTIR. Jonathan Huberdeau's contract doesn't expire until the end of the 2030-31 season, which makes him a horrible option for the Canadiens.
 

jackjohnson

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Well, with his agent being a bit of a jerk on Twitter last night...

If Hubby does want out, whats his value.

Keep in mind, one shit year does not a value make, and someone who is almost a PPG throughout his career didn't just forget to play hockey.

Calgary would like younger players back, and obviously will need to take some sort of cap back to make the transaction work.
Will trade OEL for Uber Doh
 

jackjohnson

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Some probably terrible ideas:

Huberdeau for Miller

Huberdeau + Markstrom (some retention) for Bob + Duclair

Huberdeau for Josh Anderson
Miller has more value than Uber Doh, plays harder and takes less cap hit. I would trade you OEL though. If we are trading Miller then Uber Doh needs a 25% retention lol
 

CaptainScrewy

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Would take a minimum of a 1st round pick from the Flames to move Hubey to someone else with that contract... means the Flames traded Tkachuk for Weegar straight up. Yikes.

And Weegar in couple of years will have a negative value as well. Guaranteed. Move him now if you can.
 

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