Hrricanes Lounge XLVII: The return to obeying Rhules

[skipnjump]

Man, f*** Spectrum to death.

It took way too long for Google Fiber to make it out my way, but once they did, I have never looked back.

Same here

 

[Blueline Bomber]

So I don’t follow baseball…at all…but I did see there’s this new bat shape that’s apparently allowing hitters to connect with pitches more consistently and get home runs far more often.

The MLB has apparently already come out and said these “torpedo” bats aren’t breaking any rules, but most fans think that’s just because they want more high scoring games and want to bring back the era of McGuire/Bonds without the (obvious) steroid use. The argument against the bats is that it would absolutely ensure that none of the current pitching records would ever be broken, at least until cybernetic arms are implemented and also “don’t break any rules.”

 

[DaveG]

So I don’t follow baseball…at all…but I did see there’s this new bat shape that’s apparently allowing hitters to connect with pitches more consistently and get home runs far more often.

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The MLB has apparently already come out and said these “torpedo” bats aren’t breaking any rules, but most fans think that’s just because they want more high scoring games and want to bring back the era of McGuire/Bonds without the (obvious) steroid use. The argument against the bats is that it would absolutely ensure that none of the current pitching records would ever be broken, at least until cybernetic arms are implemented and also “don’t break any rules.”

what, you mean there's something suspicious about a guy that's less jacked than a middle aged Bill Murray going to looking like he could be in the WWE while breaking HR records?

btw I'm not kidding about that

 

[Blueline Bomber]

what, you mean there's something suspicious about a guy that's less jacked than a middle aged Bill Murray going to looking like he could be in the WWE while breaking HR records?

btw I'm not kidding about that

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I have no idea who that is. Like I said, I know nothing about baseball outside of whatever interesting news piece escapes the baseball world into normal society.

 

[DaveG]

I have no idea who that is. Like I said, I know nothing about baseball outside of whatever interesting news piece escapes the baseball world into normal society.

the first dude to hit 70 and (along with Bonds) the best visible evidence of the steroid abuse that took over the sport following the strike-cancelled 94 World Series.

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[Blueline Bomber]

the first dude to hit 70 and (along with Bonds) the best visible evidence of the steroid abuse that took over the sport following the strike-cancelled 94 World Series.

Mark McGwire Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com

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See, I Googled Oakland A’s 25 and got a completely different person, so that’s why I was confused.

 

[Unhinged Finn]

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The MLB has apparently already come out and said these “torpedo” bats...

That looks more like an RPG grenade than a torpedo. Maybe taleban has copyrights on RPG baseball bat and they can't use it.

 

[raynman]

the first dude to hit 70 and (along with Bonds) the best visible evidence of the steroid abuse that took over the sport following the strike-cancelled 94 World Series.

Mark McGwire Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com

Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Mark McGwire. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com

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Steroids don’t help hand eye coordination, still have to make contact with the ball. Never had a problem with that era.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

So I don’t follow baseball…at all…but I did see there’s this new bat shape that’s apparently allowing hitters to connect with pitches more consistently and get home runs far more often.

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The MLB has apparently already come out and said these “torpedo” bats aren’t breaking any rules, but most fans think that’s just because they want more high scoring games and want to bring back the era of McGuire/Bonds without the (obvious) steroid use. The argument against the bats is that it would absolutely ensure that none of the current pitching records would ever be broken, at least until cybernetic arms are implemented and also “don’t break any rules.”

Raise the mound back to 15 inches. Done.

 

[DaveG]

Steroids don’t help hand eye coordination, still have to make contact with the ball. Never had a problem with that era.

No argument there. Mac, Bonds, and Clemens were all on their way to hof careers even without being on gear. If anything the hypocrisy is on the writers that kept them out knowing how rampant other PEDs were in use in earlier eras (hello, greenies)

 

[Chrispy]

No argument there. Mac, Bonds, and Clemens were all on their way to hof careers even without being on gear. If anything the hypocrisy is on the writers that kept them out knowing how rampant other PEDs were in use in earlier eras (hello, greenies)

The era of "leaded" vs "unleaded" coffee in the clubhouse.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2006/06/20/greenies-gone-its-early-to-bed/

 

[cptjeff]

Steroids don’t help hand eye coordination, still have to make contact with the ball. Never had a problem with that era.

Lots of guys can make that sort of consistent contact but fly out a lot. With steroids those become home runs.

It was absolutely cheating and absolutely a problem.

 

[Derailed75]

Lots of guys can make that sort of consistent contact but fly out a lot. With steroids those become home runs.

It was absolutely cheating and absolutely a problem.

Butttttt the pitchers were on it too! Their fast balls were faster injuries requires less time. Excluding Bonds, McGuire, and Sosa is like excluding current players because Ruth didn't have a personal trainer and dietician.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Butttttt the pitchers were on it too! Their fast balls were faster injuries requires less time. Excluding Bonds, McGuire, and Sosa is like excluding current players because Ruth didn't have a personal trainer and dietician.

Brady Anderson hit 50 home runs one year.

Brady Anderson.

The Steroid Era was ridiculous.

 

[cptjeff]

Butttttt the pitchers were on it too! Their fast balls were faster injuries requires less time. Excluding Bonds, McGuire, and Sosa is like excluding current players because Ruth didn't have a personal trainer and dietician.

The batter has leverage and weight beyond his own arm. The pitcher does not. The advantages are asymmetrical. Batters get much more of a benefit, which is why offense went up in that era.

I don't love excluding everyone from the HoF, but given the number of people I see saying they have no problem with the steroid use, I do understand it. The norm against performance enhancement needs to be reinforced and that's one tool for doing it.

I do think there needs to be a discussion on allowing steroids to be used for injury recovery, but until we can get on the same page that what Barry Bonds and co did was bad, I don't think we can have that conversation.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I have no idea who that is. Like I said, I know nothing about baseball outside of whatever interesting news piece escapes the baseball world into normal society.

A simple way to understand this argument:

Sebastian Aho shows up to training camp as usual, but suddenly he’s shaped like Ovechkin and scores 105 goals all on slapshots.

Now imagine reading the main board thread.

That has been baseball discussions about Mark McGwire and a few others since 1998.

 

[raynman]

Brady Anderson hit 50 home runs one year.

Brady Anderson.

The Steroid Era was ridiculous.

I like to think it was the sideburns.

The steroid era was entertaining af. Before the pitch clock thing baseball was unwatchable, they’re making progress (still don’t watch tho)

 

[Stickpucker]

A simple way to understand this argument:

Sebastian Aho shows up to training camp as usual, but suddenly he’s shaped like Ovechkin and scores 105 goals all on slapshots.

Now imagine reading the main board thread.

That has been baseball discussions about Mark McGwire and a few others since 1998.

Okay, but where do we sign to get this to happen?

 

[Unsustainable]

Steroids probably did more to maintain careers longer than they would normally have, vs the outliers of those who ate extra servings to boost.

Should be some research into peptides and other supplements that help with recovery and prolonging careers.