nowhereman
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You're confused.One plays actual defense and one doesn't.
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In the meantime, feel free to join our Discord ServerYou're confused.One plays actual defense and one doesn't.
There are certainly more than 5 assets more valuable than 1 year of McDavid. If he came with an extension that'd be different
I’m taking Gavin McKenna #1, then McDavid/Makar.
I'm seeing way too many people naming a 37 year old Crosby as one of the most valuable assets![]()
No, there isnt a gap. Hughes is at least as good, if not better.
The idea that Nick f****g Suzuki is a more valuable asset than Quinn Hughes is pure lunacy.
I'd build from the defense out
Given how rare quality RD's are #1 has to be Makar
I'd say
#1. Makar, short term on the contract hurts quite a bit. But is a unicorn. Probably the best d-men and an Right shot.
#2. Dria. 2nd best player in the NHL and long term
#3. Hellebuyck. Best goalie. PO struggles are a bit of a concern, but has taken some pretty meh WPG teams to quality seasons.
#4. Has to be an ELC guy Thinking Hutson/Celebrini.
#5. QHughes, Mack, or McDavid. Contract control be damned
EK65 won the Norris with 101 points, a -26, and a team that finished 29th in the league. QH43 is closer to that than he is Cale Makar winning the Norris this year on a top 5 team in the league in the hardest division in hockey. QH43's cap hit is meaningless until they offset that defense with actual defense.Quintin Hughes is a top 3-5 hockey player on Earth and counts only $7,850,000 against the cap until the end of the 2026-2027 season. Put that where you will on the list.
Numbers dont lie. When QH starts PKing or playing against the other teams top dogs, Ill give in. Its not even that I think he cant, its that the Canucks choose to put him in the best scenarios for offense only vs rolling through anything and letting his play dictate the pace.You're confused.
Very low actually because as you pointed out, he's close to UFAQuintin Hughes is a top 3-5 hockey player on Earth and counts only $7,850,000 against the cap until the end of the 2026-2027 season. Put that where you will on the list.
Suzuki is signed until he's 30 for under 8M, he's a legit 1C and plays both ends of the iceNo, there isnt a gap. Hughes is at least as good, if not better.
The idea that Nick f****g Suzuki is a more valuable asset than Quinn Hughes is pure lunacy.
How many players are locks to give you 80-90 points a season. And sell the most merchandise of any player in the league?I'm seeing way too many people naming a 37 year old Crosby as one of the most valuable assets![]()
Tell me you don't watch a single minute of Quinn Hughes play without telling me you don't watch a single minute of Quinn Hughes play.Yes I do. Quinn is close offensively, but not in the same stratosphere defensively. There are multiple dmen I would take over Quinn for a complete game playing some actual defense. Quinn is more i nthe Bouchard tier for me being a hybrid PP QB, offensive FO only whenever possible guy.
True. A healthy season would goes a long way, but the AAV and PPG is there.
How many more PPG seasons do you think Crosby has in him?How many players are locks to give you 80-90 points a season. And sell the most merchandise of any player in the league?
From a business POV, I think youre underestimating 8. I did a case study on Arod's Texas Rangers deal and our results were even if theyre the worst team in the league, it was a smart deal from a ROI POV for the team. Thats where McDavid in TOR or LA or NYC, Tkachuks together, or whoever in the right market can make the most sense.
Numbers dont lie. When QH starts PKing or playing against the other teams top dogs, Ill give in. Its not even that I think he cant, its that the Canucks choose to put him in the best scenarios for offense only vs rolling through anything and letting his play dictate the pace.
Even strength according to NST,You were saying........................
and newsflash, werenski averages over a minute more 5v5 than Hughes, and yet hughes still beats both of handily scoring at Even strength
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Even strength according to NST,
Makar 14 goals, 47 points
Werenski 14 goals, 45 points
Hughes 12 goals, 43 points
5 on 5
Werenski 12 goals, 39 points
Makar 11 goals, 37 points
Hughes 10 goals, 33 points
Even strength according to NST,
Makar 14 goals, 47 points
Werenski 14 goals, 45 points
Hughes 12 goals, 43 points
5 on 5
Werenski 12 goals, 39 points
Makar 11 goals, 37 points
Hughes 10 goals, 33 points
Anyone who doesn't say McDavid needs to turn off their console and come back to real life.
How would MacKinnon being more valuable mean that McDavid isn’t top 5?Very true. I would easily value a rental McDavid who'll walk from my team to Edmonton instead of Mackinnon who'll stay for 6 more years. It's just obvious that a rental would be the most valuable asset in the league.
If you're talking about putting a top 5 player on a team then the only thing that really matters is ability, and to a certain extent age like for example disqualifying a Crosby. Like if you're given the choice between a top 5 player like Leon Draisaitl (using him because of the new contract) or a great value contract like Nick Suzuki, you take Draisaitl every time and worry about finding cap efficiency elsewhere.
Also guys like Celebrini or Bedard just because they're really young are a massive risk when you have proven elite top talent like McDavid/MacKinnon/Draisaitl/Makar/Hughes/etc available.
The one who hasn't played enough games to have actually competitive totals?Only one defenseman is averaging over 2 esp per/60
Pretty clear who I’m talking about
Suzuki is signed until he's 30 for under 8M, he's a legit 1C and plays both ends of the ice
So Suzuki signed for 5 more years after this at 7.875
or
Hughes signed for 2 more years after this at 7.85
I'm not saying 1 guy is better than the other, but I genuinely don't know how someone can suggest that Suzuki's contract isn't better value. Having an extra 3 years at that cap hit is massive.
It's all about $/production, Suzukis caphit/production for 5 more years is insanely valuable.