How to reduce powerplays in the NHL

[PistolPete]

I'm going to go with "no" with main reason being.....hockey isn't basketball....possession isn't the same....possession can change in hockey 3 times in 2 seconds.

Ane because of that everything should stay the same because....????

 

[Tawnos]

I guess this begs the question what differentiates a fundamental change from a tweak?

I would say that a fundamental change alters how the game itself is played, and a tweak modifies behavior already present.

You couldn’t move the puck forward, now you can. That’s fundamental.

Goalies go play the puck. Now they just can’t play it in the corners. Thats a tweak.

 

[brentashton]

It has never sat well with me that star players are basically powerplay merchants. To the point where teams become powerplay merchants. This isn't just a dig at the Oilers. The Sedins had some years where they'd just kill you on the PP. Less powerplays puts a premium on 5 on 5 hockey.

So what if powerplays were only rewarded after every 3rd minor infraction ? There would be a tally for each team through the game. Only after the 3rd infraction does the opposing team get the powerplay. Nothing else would have to change.

It would also lead to some suspense as both teams get closer to 3.

Scoring goals is amongst the most exciting aspect of hockey.

Ya, let’s limit the ability of star players with exceptional skills from doing that by allowing others to hack and hold more with minimalized impunity. Is that you Eddie Shore, back from the dead? If so, go back to your dirt sleep and let the NHL be exciting.

What a silly concept, but I applaud you for exploring it.

How about no skates, defencemen can wear broomball shoes and Centers have to use ringette sticks while we’re at it.

 

[brentashton]

Ane because of that everything should stay the same because....????

You usually adjust the terms of a game to make it better.

 

[Toby91ca]

Ane because of that everything should stay the same because....????

Yes

 

[PistolPete]

You usually adjust the terms of a game to make it better.

Exactly.

 

[brentashton]

Exactly.

I’m glad we agree. Because this was a stupid idea.

 

[Oilslick941611]

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You weren’t even close lol, you just made it up, you realize people can check.

This guy is too busy hating the oilers to check basic facts.

He also denies the PDO bender the canucks were on last season, so he clearly doesn't live in reality.

 

[Kimota]

I witnessed the dead puck era of the late 90s early 00s...what we have now is better.

I share your frustration with all the PPs but that era is why we have this one now. Go back and watch the footage it is absurd the things refs wouldn't call and the league got sick of their elite players being unable to show their talents because of a league filled with bums who's only talents were being able to grab, hook and cheap shot people every night

But to me the playoffs were miles better because of it. It was so hard to battle and win games and get that trophy. Those were marathons but that's why I loved it so much. They call it the dead puck era but this was the times of greatly skilled teams and dynasties like the Red Wings and Avalanches. With great rivalries. When you have strength and skills, nothing can stop you. The 90s were the era of the Forsberg, Sakic, Yzerman, Shanahan, Lindros, Jagr, Bure, Selanee, the Sedins, etc.., it sure didn't lack of high end generational talent. Much more than now, in fact.

And trying to solve the lack of scoring by having more penalties and PP does not make the game better. In fact, it feels cheap. It feels too easy.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

But to me the playoffs were miles better because of it. It was so hard to battle and win games and get that trophy. Those were marathons but that's why I loved it so much. They call it the dead puck era but this was the times of greatly skilled teams and dynasties like the Red Wings and Avalanches. With great rivalries. When you have strength and skills, nothing can stop you. The 90s were the era of the Forsberg, Sakic, Yzerman, Shanahan, Lindros, Jagr, Bure, Selanee, the Sedins, etc.., it sure didn't lack of high end generational talent. Much more than now, in fact.

And trying to solve the lack of scoring by having more penalties and PP does not make the game better. In fact, it feels cheap. It feels too easy.

I don't have a problem with less scoring, to me game flow and action is more important. I do remember those rivalries and they were great, but players could just hook, hold and interfere as much as they wanted and maybe it gets called once per game. I would love if you took the speed and pace of the modern game and had a bit more of that late 90s physicality

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Sort by PPO, you will then need to
Scroll down to the bottom of the list,
# of PP per team per game, the lowest ever.

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Honestly I was just commenting on his premise I like the way the game is officiated now I would just prefer a bit more physicality personally

 

[wgknestrick]

Why aren't players allowed to carry guns during games?

 

[Toby91ca]

But to me the playoffs were miles better because of it. It was so hard to battle and win games and get that trophy. Those were marathons but that's why I loved it so much. They call it the dead puck era but this was the times of greatly skilled teams and dynasties like the Red Wings and Avalanches. With great rivalries. When you have strength and skills, nothing can stop you. The 90s were the era of the Forsberg, Sakic, Yzerman, Shanahan, Lindros, Jagr, Bure, Selanee, the Sedins, etc.., it sure didn't lack of high end generational talent. Much more than now, in fact.

And trying to solve the lack of scoring by having more penalties and PP does not make the game better. In fact, it feels cheap. It feels too easy.

But there were more penalties and PP then vs now so what are you trying to say?

 

[Midnight Judges]

The refs already allow 1 blatant interference per dump in.

What the op suggests is basically already happening if you factor in all the interference that isn’t called.

 

[Matsun]

Yes.

But it's still a factor in the league's average being at around 6 goals per game.

Can't put my finger on it but it just bugs me for some reason.

This was the 43rd highest scoring season ever out of 107 seasons. So pretty average.

I think what might be bugging you could be that the league currently is neither a defensive slugfest with great goalies or a place where stars go totally wild like in the 1980s or in 1993. For a while it felt like the league was heading towards a new offensive explosion but the goals are going down the last 2 seasons.

 

[PistolPete]

This was the 43rd highest scoring season ever out of 107 seasons. So pretty average.

I think what might be bugging you could be that the league currently is neither a defensive slugfest with great goalies or a place where stars go totally wild like in the 1980s or in 1993. For a while it felt like the league was heading towards a new offensive explosion but the goals are going down the last 2 seasons.

You could be on to something.

I was thinking about it more and I think another factor could be while PPO are down, PP% efficiency is up, which means the league can instruct referees to keep PP to around 5 or 6 a game. I'm winging off memory but I think when the PP% was in the tank, PPO were much higher.

 

[westc2]

I think it's funny how viciously cross-checking a dude in the ribs, potentially injuring him, will get you a 2 minute roughing penalty, and then accidentally flipping the puck over the glass in the defensive zone will get you the SAME punishment...they need to revamp the penalty system in hockey.

 

[PistolPete]

I think it's funny how viciously cross-checking a dude in the ribs, potentially injuring him, will get you a 2 minute roughing penalty, and then accidentally flipping the puck over the glass in the defensive zone will get you the SAME punishment...they need to revamp the penalty system in hockey.

Personally, I think any penalty involving the stick in an unsportsmanlike or reckless manner should be automatic double minor.

It is always a choice to use the stick in that manner; it's not like a tripping penalty where it's just a reaction to an opponent skating by you.

 

[Toby91ca]

You could be on to something.

I was thinking about it more and I think another factor could be while PPO are down, PP% efficiency is up, which means the league can instruct referees to keep PP to around 5 or 6 a game. I'm winging off memory but I think when the PP% was in the tank, PPO were much higher.

Nah...don't think so. PP% is all over the map in terms of when it was highest....top 8 years of PP efficiency was late 70s to mid 80s, then you have this past season and no correlation at all in terms of PPO's....there were more in the 70s/80s vs. now....if you keep going through list you have years just bouncing back and forth all over the place where may go up with more PPO's or may be the opposite as well.