How Safe is Dineen This Year?

interesting perspectives. while i agree philosophically with rr (i don't feel this team has consistently played good structural hockey), the coach gets the benefit when the players on the ice come together and make something happen. this is what we saw two seasons ago. if you grade that team on consistency, effort, structure... they failed miserably. otoh, there was enough chemistry, at least early on, to get the team to the playoffs and provide some exciting hockey for the fans. dineen, as a result, benefited. the story of the year, for us at least, was really that the panthers made the playoffs. i could easily write that season off with the phrase "even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes". last season was clearly a lost cause personnel and injury wise. if this year's roster manages to stay healthy and win some games, i fear he'll stick around even if it's clear we still are not playing good hockey. i hope i'm wrong, though - i hope either the guys come together and execute whatever dineen's trying to teach (i.e., play some good hockey) or tallon cans his ass.

another way to look at it - in an ideal world, your coach will bring the best out of each and every player and pull all the individuals on your roster into a cohesive whole. however, in the real world, if your roster can bumble its way to the playoffs, the politics around firing your coach are not super attractive.

As a Kovalev fan, I just always remember how the Pens management duked Hlinka over after like 4 losses in a row to open the year after he did everything and combo'd super chemistried 27 with Straka and Lang the previous year. (a certain English teacher would love the run on I just created)

I just really don't see this particular crew rolling with anyone else given who's availabvle to replace him. I think if he does go, he'd go after years end.

Obviously the whole thread is spec anyway. Can't beat anyone up over their thoughts here.
 
Probably going to end up being one of those scenarios where Dineen weathers the rebuild, the team finally gets good, and then they get some other coach in who takes all the credit.

Exhibit A - The Los Angeles Kings

But I dont see how breaking a 10+ year playoff drought in year one and then having his team decimated in year two puts him on the hot seat.
 
Exhibit A - The Los Angeles Kings

But I dont see how breaking a 10+ year playoff drought in year one and then having his team decimated in year two puts him on the hot seat.

Don't forget Tallon's Blackhawks. He has Denis Savard there during the rebuild, and as soon as he fired him for Joel Quenneville, the Hawks took off.
 
Sort of like off topic, but have there been cases that coach has chosen to leave after contract has expired in NHL? Like Nick Saban and Dolphins? Or are all of them waiting to be fired?

JOL
 
Sort of like off topic, but have there been cases that coach has chosen to leave after contract has expired in NHL? Like Nick Saban and Dolphins? Or are all of them waiting to be fired?

JOL

Jacques Martin left in the middle I believe
 
No. He pulled a Nick Saban and went for his "dream job".

Yes. He got fired as coach, and only retained the GM label, which he's never been and doesn't feel is his calling.

I don't blame him for leaving, and we're alot better off anyway. He was a terrible GM. The only thing that hurt us was the timing of his departure, we had no other choice but to hand the team to Randy Sexton, who is one of the biggest imbeciles of our era.

Steven Reinprecht, second line center. Scott Clemmensen over Craig Anderson. Ville Koistinen.

He actually made one great move in signing Seidenberg, and then traded him at the deadline. Keeping him was a no-brainer the way he played that year for us, and at the time, Seidenberg wanted to stay.

What a doofus.
 
Yes. He got fired as coach, and only retained the GM label, which he's never been and doesn't feel is his calling.

I don't blame him for leaving, and we're alot better off anyway. He was a terrible GM. The only thing that hurt us was the timing of his departure, we had no other choice but to hand the team to Randy Sexton, who is one of the biggest imbeciles of our era.

Steven Reinprecht, second line center. Scott Clemmensen over Craig Anderson. Ville Koistinen.

He actually made one great move in signing Seidenberg, and then traded him at the deadline. Keeping him was a no-brainer the way he played that year for us, and at the time, Seidenberg wanted to stay.

What a doofus.


I thought we were talking about people who bolted from one job and went to another, not people who were fired?
 
I think Dineen is safe, one half year where we were decimated by injuries is not really a great indication of what he can do. He probably has another year or two before hes on the hot sot.
 

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