How much support for Julien as Head Coach? (All Julien Talk IV)

[Number8]

I'll finish with one for Charlie Jacobs this weekend. In the meantime these are results to date for JJacobs, CNeely, DSweeney. Using ranking of:

1= Think he's Excellent
2= Think he's Good.
3= Think he's Average
4= Don't think he's Very Good.
5= Don't like him at all, wish we had someone else.

To date:

Jacobs: 109 Votes
1=3%
2=11%
3=28%
4=14%
5=44%

Neely: 114 Votes
1= 2%
2= 3%
3= 9%
4= 22%
5= 65%

Sweeney: 114 Votes
1= 4%
2= 34%
3= 37%
4= 18%
5= 7%

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[ReggieMoto]

No surprises there. I think he's an excellent coach. That doesn't mean coach for life. It means the next coach will have to be an out-of-this-world good coach to fill the empty shoes when he resigns or gets fired. People will absolutely miss him when is gone.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

He's a great coach. So somewhere between 1 and 2. I voted 2.

I also think that coaches have a shelf life. And teams in different positions need different things. When Claude was coaching a bunch of underdogs that rose above and developed into an elite team for a few years, he was the right coach.

During this time of transition of both personnel and style, I'm not sure if he's the right coach. He coaches a system. A system other teams have figured out, and he does not have players consistent or talented enough pull off night after night like he once had.

 

[Brucentric*]

He is the premier coach in the league this side of Babcock. Pretty simple.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Excellent coach

 

[Ladyfan]

He is excellent. I love the way he handles himself. He has the players on his side for sure.

People forget how bad it was before.

The day may come for him but it isn't now.

 

[Ratty]

Excellent coach. Players respect him. Gets the most out of what he's given to work with.

 

[LSCII]

I wish there were another option to the effect of his being a good coach, but it simply being time for a change here. Because that's what I feel is truly happening in Boston right now. Since there wasn't, I picked dislike him in role, want another coach.

 

[Marchy63]

I think Claude is a good to great coach, but I feel that maybe it is time for this team to go in another direction. Claude, like all great coaches, is much better when his team is made up of skilled players that can play that can play his system. As of now I don't think this team is made up of enough skill to execute his system the way they used to.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

Good coach but the message has gotten stale. The last 3 years have been abysmal, not all his fault of course, but the club needs to be invigorated. The vets have become so comfortable under CJ, that's why they all love him, no consequences for their play, unlike the youngsters.

 

[Sheppy]

Good coach in the grand scheme of things, but he does make some decisions that make me want to take an acid bath.

 

[Therick67]

I'll finish with one for Charlie Jacobs this weekend. In the meantime these are results to date for JJacobs, CNeely, DSweeney. Using ranking of:

1= Think he's Excellent
2= Think he's Good.
3= Think he's Average
4= Don't think he's Very Good.
5= Don't like him at all, wish we had someone else.

To date:

Jacobs: 109 Votes
1=3%
2=11%
3=28%
4=14%
5=44%

Neely: 114 Votes
1= 2%
2= 3%
3= 9%
4= 22%
5= 65%

Sweeney: 114 Votes
1= 4%
2= 34%
3= 37%
4= 18%
5= 7%

When you do one for Charlie, could you tell us what he does, so we can have an informed opinion? because I have no idea what he's doing...

 

[Saxon Eric]

Some up's some down's, overall average in my eyes

 

[Blowfish]

I selected very good coach but it's definaately time for a new coach.

 

[bp13]

I wish there were another option to the effect of his being a good coach, but it simply being time for a change here. Because that's what I feel is truly happening in Boston right now. Since there wasn't, I picked dislike him in role, want another coach.

Surprising again, I'm with Lonnie.

I absolutely think he's a great coach, and while I'm not certain they'd be better off with another coach, I'm not convinced they wouldn't.

 

[Hali33]

Even if/when it's time to move on, he's an excellent head coach in my mind.

I doubt my mind changes on this.

 

[ap3lovr]

Excellent coach, has brought me one of the happiest moments I've ever experienced watching television. I would love to meet him, and I will be the first to tell you he is one of the best coaches in hockey today, and he will likely end up in the HoF after all is said and done.

That being said, I think it is time to move away from Clode and bring in a fresh perspective to remove the robotic play this team has fallen into.

 

[JCRO]

Even if/when it's time to move on, he's an excellent head coach in my mind.

I doubt my mind changes on this.

This is exactly how I approached this question.

 

[bigbadbruins1]

I think he is a great coach. Sadly I think his tenure here will run its course, but I would let him finish out his contract as I don't foresee them winning next year so why pay two head coaches to suck?

 

[Glove Malfunction]

I wish there were another option to the effect of his being a good coach, but it simply being time for a change here. Because that's what I feel is truly happening in Boston right now. Since there wasn't, I picked dislike him in role, want another coach.

WOw! I'm shocked Lonnie. OK, not really! HAHA.

I agree with you though. The #5 option isn't really in line with the other options. You can believe he's an excellent coach (which I do) but also have come to dislike him in the HC role (which you obviously do). They are not exclusive of one another.

 

[JAD]

I voted #4, but think he is 'very' good. Better than good or average but not excellent. Main reason is because of his stubbornness - to often make in game adjustments (especially late in a game), player usage, shorten the bench, ... to 'do whatever it takes' to tie a game up to keep from losing. His stubbornness to take a risk. I mean if you're trailing by a goal late, in the end, it doesn't make a difference if you lose by 1, or 2 goals - if you lose you lose.
Other than that I think he is a great coach.

 

[LSCII]

WOw! I'm shocked Lonnie. OK, not really! HAHA.

I agree with you though. The #5 option isn't really in line with the other options. You can believe he's an excellent coach (which I do) but also have come to dislike him in the HC role (which you obviously do). They are not exclusive of one another.

Yep. And it's not even that I dislike him as much as I think it's simply time for a change.

 

[BNHL]

WOw! I'm shocked Lonnie. OK, not really! HAHA.

I agree with you though. The #5 option isn't really in line with the other options. You can believe he's an excellent coach (which I do) but also have come to dislike him in the HC role (which you obviously do). They are not exclusive of one another.

I agree,there should be a "his time has passed here" option.

 

[22Brad Park]

I went with good cause he is stubborn at times and it hurts team.But no one else available better so they best be careful in management.Or it could be like Flames.Worse then Hartley.

 

[BruinDust]

I voted for him being a good coach, which he is. He is highly respected in the hockey community.

He has his strengths. His ability to implement structure in a team's system is among the best in the business.

That being said, he's not the only hockey coach on the planet who can implement a structured system.

He has his weaknesses, specifically making adjustments in-game, and relies of lines and pairings that have worked in the past far too much. And keeps lines/pairings together that have gone stale far too long. Sometimes it's almost like Julien forgets he can always go back to a line later on. Sometimes just moving guys around can freshen up the approach. And his reluctance to move guys around has lead to complaciency among the veteran players knowing their "spot" is secure.

His love for "zero-zone" players like Nash, Kemppainen, etc. will always be a point of contention with me. The idea that a NHL forward is an effective one because he is decent in the defensive aspects of the game, but totally ineffective at the offensive aspects, doesn't work anymore. You can't run out 2 bottom lines of grinders hoping to lock things down and grind teams into the dust anymore, the league overall is just too fast.

He doesn't hate kids, but he loves his veterans. His approach is very conservative.

I've found myself watching more of other teams this season than in years past. And the more I watch, the more I believe Julien's overall principles and player usage is from a era that has passed him by.

I won't throw a party when he's fired. But I won't cry about it either.