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How many teams would Thomas Harley be a #1D on?

Garbageyuk said:
You know I’m not wrong dude. The data is there. I don’t have to do anything because you say. Do it yourself and prove me wrong if you’re so sure of it. I didn’t go out of my way to interact with you. Or, don’t and keep yapping; it makes no difference to me.
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No one believes you Willis.
 
Fatass said:
It’s an open discussion. Assume any post made is meant for all to reply, if they so choose. There are PM features for private discussions.
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He keeps repeating the same thing. I’ve given him an answer. At this point, he can either accept it or move on because there’s nothing to be gained by continuing on how he seems to want to.
 
Elysian said:
He's -5 because he plays on the PP, which is red hot for Dallas, and means he's not going to be getting +'s. What a ridiculous argument.
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It's also an indication that his team is giving up more goals 5v5 when he is on the ice, which has unfortunately been the case. 95% of the game is played 5v5.

The person who started this nonsense was making claims that Faber was "getting caved" by Vegas while Harley was a bastion of defense. This is CLEARLY not the case, which is why I brought that up. You might want to read the post history before deciding to hitch your wagon to that idiot.

So far these playoffs, Harley has been great offensively and an excellent PP QB while struggling quite a bit defensively 5v5.
 
Golden_Jet said:
Ya poster flat out refuses to backup the claim, that he has terrible analytics. We all know why.
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No, I refuse to jump and do what you say when you’re coming at me with this type of attitude. That’s what I’m refusing. You think you’re just going to snap your fingers and command someone? Do you live in the real world?
 
Data This, Data that.... no one is posting it, here I will. Harley stepped up in his year 22 season, Faber did not.

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Hockeyfan200 said:
some of you are baiting. do some freaking research. my gosh oh yeah he would over over Brodin, Spurgeon and Faber. When wild run a different system than freaking dallas. Laughable
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I mean, I actually agree when it comes to Brodin and Spurgeon to be honest.

Harley is basically a bigger, younger Spurgeon. They have similar skill sets and I think Harley was shown that his ceiling is higher. Brodin is a better skater and prob has a better stick, but Harley is orders of magnitude better offensively. They would probably make a great pair in all honestly, but Harley would prob be considered the #1 all things considered.

Faber is way harder to make an argument for. I'm admittedly curious as to what the actual argument is there (and this imaginary "data"). It's one of the more interesting "debates" on the list, so it's unfortunate that OP is a hyperbolic, blathering child.
 
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Garbageyuk said:
Ok, fine. He’s a defensive D that isn’t good at defense. Probably a more accurate description. 29 points is not an offensive D, your right, my bad.
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apparantly according to you , you know more than Messier and PK right? lol. Brock faber is a stud who struggles in the 2nd half of the season but undoubtedly shutdown Vegas best players
 
Garbageyuk said:
You again? Faber is trash lol we’ve been through this.
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Faber played banged up the second half of the season. Theres also the fact that Jake is a better goalie then Gus Bus even though it's close. Faber did slump in his second season but playing without your superstar puts a lot more pressure on your best defender when hes called on to shutdown top lines while having awful offensive numbers that Minnesota was putting up without Kirill. I know it's your opinion but in no way is Faber trash, guy earned a 9m contract after 1 season for a reason, he eats a ton a minutes for a young defensemen and looked great for the US playing with a great team.
Well just have to see next year how they both progress,
Offensively its hands down Harley he showed great strides the last 2 seasons and has shown he can be a great PP specialist.

Outside of Kirill, Boldy and Rossi our offense is god awful so Harley has the weapons going for him as well.
 
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Killakirillthethrill said:
Faber played banged up the second half of the season. Theres also the fact that Jake is a better goalie then Gus Bus even though it's close. Faber did slump in his second season but playing without your superstar puts a lot more pressure on your best defender when hes called on to shutdown top lines while having awful offensive numbers that Minnesota was putting up without Kirill. I know it's your opinion but in no way is Faber trash, guy earned a 9m contract after 1 season for a reason, he eats a ton a minutes for a young defensemen and looked great for the US playing with a great team.
Well just have to see next year how they both progress,
Offensively its hands down Harley he showed great strides the last 2 seasons and has shown he can be a great PP specialist.

Outside of Kirill, Boldy and Rossi our offense is god awful so Harley has the weapons going for him as well.
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Fair enough. I respect your opinion and appreciate the effort put into the response, whether I agree or not.
 
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Hockeyfan200 said:
Faber isn't trash. We can again. Your opinion hasn't backed anything up. Opinion are rendered to nothing
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Lol okay buddy. Have at it by yourself. You’ve behaved like a 5 year old in this thread. I’ll let you have the last word because you just keep repeating the same shit, and you clearly need some kind of little victory here. Go ahead, have the last word 😂
 
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Garbageyuk said:
Lol okay buddy. Have at it by yourself. You’ve behaved like a 5 year old in this thread. I’ll let you have the last word because you just keep repeating the same shit, and you clearly need some kind of little victory here. Go ahead, have the last word 😂
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Hayley is good but he’s best suited as a 3. He’s certainly not the best D man on Minny. That’s Fabre, imo. Although Minny does have Brodin and Spurgeon too.
 
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