How many teams would Thomas Harley be a #1D on?

[Garbageyuk]

You didn't say Jack. According to you , Everyone's else opinion is meaningless or prove they gave you is meaningless besides You. You don't know shit about others. Then you want to disrespect other teams players by saying they suck. People can say the same shit about Thomas Harley

Harley is better offensively than any D on the Wild, and he’s better defensively than Faber, by miles. Faber is trash.

 

[Fatass]

Didn’t I do exactly that in the post you originally quoted?

In that post it listed Boston (who has McAvoy, who is clearly better than Harley) as a team that Harley would be their 1. So please explain. Thank you.
Yes, I’m polite. It’s a Canadian thing.

 

[Garbageyuk]

No he’s not. Fabre is better. Harley is really good. But he’s a 3.

How is Faber better? Explain.

Harley has superior production, possession metrics, and analytics.

Harley is thriving in the playoffs, whereas Faber got caved in and couldn’t register even a single point both times we saw him in the postseason.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Harley is better offensively than any D on the Wild, and he’s better defensively than Faber, by miles. Faber is trash.

Again Your f***ing opinion no matter how trash your opionon is. I , nor any wild fan give a crap about dallas fan talking trash. He wouldnt be even #3 on wild. John Hynes and Bill Guerin hate players like Thomas Harley. lol.. Because he's a trash Dman flat out. You want to play that game we can

 

[Fatass]

Harley is better offensively than any D on the Wild, and he’s better defensively than Faber, by miles. Faber is trash.

That doesn’t make him a 1 on that club. Fabre is a much better 1 than Harley. Harley is a much better suited 3. That’s where he can dominate play. From the 1 he’s in over his head.,

 

[Garbageyuk]

In that post it listed Boston (who has McAvoy, who is clearly better than Harley) as a team that Harley would be their 1. So please explain. Thank you.
Yes, I’m polite. It’s a Canadian thing.

No it didn’t. Boston was listed as a maybe, meaning it’s unclear and I can’t say definitively one way or the other.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Again Your f***ing opinion no matter how trash your opionon is. I , nor any wild fan give a crap about dallas fan talking trash. He wouldnt be even #3 on wild. John Hynes and Bill Guerin hate players like Thomas Harley. lol.. Because he's a trash Dman flat out. You want to play that game we can

I don’t care dude.
Cool, think what you want. You have failed to backup your claims with anything other than incessantly whining and crying and throwing a tantrum. Move on if nobody cares about my opinion lol. Imagine repeating “nobody cares” over and over while continuing to stick around and have an epic meltdown

 

[Garbageyuk]

That doesn’t make him a 1 on that club. Fabre is a much better 1 than Harley. Harley is a much better suited 3. That’s where he can dominate play. From the 1 he’s in over his head.,

Again, explain how?

 

[Fatass]

No it didn’t. Boston was listed as a maybe, meaning it’s unclear and I can’t say definitively one way or the other.

Well it’s not unclear. Clearly McAvoy is better as a 1. So actually you need to explain how Harley is better (on Boston; not where he currently is) as a 1. Remember Harley is playing in a different environment in Dallas than he would experience in Boston, or any other club.
I’ll patiently wait for your explanation. Thank you (yes, a polite Canadian)

 

[ScottishCanuck]

Where did you get the idea that it’s supposed to be witty? You’re so pissed lol. Be mad at Faber for being trash, not at me.

I’m not pissed at all. I have no skin in this game.

I just recognise a juvenile argument when I see one, and you’re not making many viable points.

Oh wait, forgot the lmao. lol.

 

[Fatass]

Again, explain how?

You made the assertion that Harley is a 1 on Minny. It’s your responsibility to explain why that is. It’s your theory friend.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

I don’t care dude.
Cool, think what you want. You have failed to backup your claims with anything other than incessantly whining and crying and throwing a tantrum. Move on if nobody cares about my opinion lol. Imagine repeating “nobody cares” over and over while continuing to stick around and have an epic meltdown

And you aren't whining? You have since the beginning when called out for your bullcrap then kept insisting that you're right and everyone's point to you is wrong. That's the very definition of Pouting and whining. You do care or you wouldn't keep saying so

 

[Garbageyuk]

I’m not pissed at all. I have no skin in this game.

I just recognise a juvenile argument when I see one, and you’re not making many viable points.

Oh wait, forgot the lmao. lol.

Meanwhile, your only point was about how you perceived someone’s username. I know hypocrisy when I see it.

LMAO.

 

[Garbageyuk]

You made the assertion that Harley is a 1 on Minny. It’s your responsibility to explain why that is. It’s your theory friend.

I already have several times.

 

[Garbageyuk]

And you aren't whining? You have since the beginning when called out for your bullcrap then kept insisting that you're right and everyone's point to you is wrong. That's the very definition of Pouting and whining. You do care or you wouldn't keep saying so

Nope, I’m not whining about shit. I don’t care what your opinion is, especially not after you’ve declined to back it up repeatedly. You’re the one who quoted me and keeps taking issue with what I’ve said, not the other way around.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Well it’s not unclear. Clearly McAvoy is better as a 1. So actually you need to explain how Harley is better (on Boston; not where he currently is) as a 1. Remember Harley is playing in a different environment in Dallas than he would experience in Boston, or any other club.
I’ll patiently wait for your explanation. Thank you (yes, a polite Canadian)

Nope. I never said he’d be #1 in Boston, so I don’t need to address that at all.

 

[Fatass]

I already have several times.

Sorry friend. But you actually have not. Dallas and Minny are two different clubs. You need to explain why Harley would be better than Fabre (and take the 1 role from him) from a Minny POV. The Dallas POV doesn’t apply.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Sorry friend. But you actually have not. Dallas and Minny are two different clubs. You need to explain why Harley would be better than Fabre (and take the 1 role from him) from a Minny POV. The Dallas POV doesn’t apply.

Once again, Harley has superior production, possession metrics, and analytics. He’s bigger and more suited to playoff hockey, as evidenced by the fact that he has 11 points through 13 games and has been his team’s best D through two rounds.

Meanwhile, Faber got caved in defensively again this year, and has not been able to muster a single playoff point in his career so far, despite averaging over 27:00 minutes per game this year in the playoffs.

That’s how Harley is better. Now, let’s hear your counter-argument in favour why Faber is better.

 

[Fatass]

Once again, Harley has superior production, possession metrics, and analytics. He’s bigger and more suited to playoff hockey, as evidenced by the fact that he has 11 points through 13 games and has been his team’s best D through two rounds.

Meanwhile, Faber got caved in defensively again this year, and has not been able to muster a single playoff point in his career so far, despite averaging over 27:00 minutes per game this year in the playoffs.

That’s how Harley is better. Now, let’s hear your counter-argument in favour why Faber is better.

I appreciate your answer. Bigger is transferable. The rest, however, is team related.
In other words, it’s an opinion based argument. In your opinion Harley is better as a 1 than Fabre. And that’s fine. I disagree. Imo Harley is a really good 3.

 

[Garbageyuk]

I appreciate your answer. Bigger is transferable. The rest, however, is team related.
In other words, it’s an opinion based argument. In your opinion Harley is better as a 1 than Fabre. And that’s fine. I disagree. Imo Harley is a really good 3.

It is opinion based, but it’s an opinion supported by all the data we have available.

Your opinion on the other hand, isn’t supported by anything.

Your argument is that we can’t say Harley is better because we can’t know how he’d do outside of Dallas, and Faber is better because…idk, you still haven’t given any reasoning.

Meanwhile, Faber got absolutely caved in this year in the playoffs yet again, and was not able to muster even a single point despite playing over 27:00 minutes per game.

Well, that’s certainly a take. You’re entitled to it though, of course.

 

[Mubiki]

Once again, Harley has superior production, possession metrics, and analytics. He’s bigger and more suited to playoff hockey, as evidenced by the fact that he has 11 points through 13 games and has been his team’s best D through two rounds.

Meanwhile, Faber got caved in defensively again this year, and has not been able to muster a single playoff point in his career so far, despite averaging over 27:00 minutes per game this year in the playoffs.

That’s how Harley is better. Now, let’s hear your counter-argument in favour why Faber is better.

Harley has not been their best defensemen, despite good offensive numbers. Lindell has.

His pairing started bleeding shots like crazy the moment Heiskanen went down. That also continued into the playoffs. That's why he's a -5 despite putting up 11 points.

Faber was on ice for more goals forward than he was against these playoffs. Which impressive with no points. In fact, it demonstrates how effective he is at shutting people down when he's on. He didn't get "caved" in any way, shape or form.

Not only were you dead wrong (or intentionally) lying about these players in the playoffs, you don't seem to really have a good understanding of either player in general.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Harley has not been their best defensemen, despite good offensive numbers. Lindell has.

His pairing started bleeding shots like crazy the moment Heiskanen went down. That also continued into the playoffs. That's why he's a -5 despite putting up 11 points.

Faber was on ice for more goals forward than he was against these playoffs. Which impressive with no points. In fact, it demonstrates how effective he is at shutting people down when he's on. He didn't get "caved" in any way, shape or form.

Not only were you dead wrong (or intentionally) lying about these players in the playoffs, you don't seem to really have a good understanding of either player in general.

None of the data supports this claim. His possession metrics and analytics are terrible.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Harley has not been their best defensemen, despite good offensive numbers. Lindell has.

His pairing started bleeding shots like crazy the moment Heiskanen went down. That also continued into the playoffs. That's why he's a -5 despite putting up 11 points.

Faber was on ice for more goals forward than he was against these playoffs. Which impressive with no points. In fact, it demonstrates how effective he is at shutting people down when he's on. He didn't get "caved" in any way, shape or form.

Not only were you dead wrong (or intentionally) lying about these players in the playoffs, you don't seem to really have a good understanding of either player in general.

Plus-minus? Your entire argument is plus-minus? Interesting lmao.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Once again, Harley has superior production, possession metrics, and analytics. He’s bigger and more suited to playoff hockey, as evidenced by the fact that he has 11 points through 13 games and has been his team’s best D through two rounds.

Meanwhile, Faber got caved in defensively again this year, and has not been able to muster a single playoff point in his career so far, despite averaging over 27:00 minutes per game this year in the playoffs.

That’s how Harley is better. Now, let’s hear your counter-argument in favour why Faber is better.

once again this was faber 1st year in the playoff troll. Wild missed playoff last year. Once again points aren't shit when trying to determine a Dman worth or what player like Brodin , Spurgeon, Faber do in Minnesota's defensive structure team. Guess what troll? Players have struggles in their 2nd year, it happens. Faber isn't the 1st player it happens to. But guess what all analyst including former players like PK Subban who watch wild during the playoff raves about Faber. So an opinion of an online fan doesn't mean shit

 

[Hockeyfan200]

I appreciate your answer. Bigger is transferable. The rest, however, is team related.
In other words, it’s an opinion based argument. In your opinion Harley is better as a 1 than Fabre. And that’s fine. I disagree. Imo Harley is a really good 3.

Plus he openly lied about faber playing in playoffs last year. wild didn't make playoffs in faber's 1st year in the league,