How high can McDavid get?

[Crunchrulz]

Right now McDavid has put up 39+87=126 points during his career in the playoffs. McDavid currently ranks 115th in all time playoff goals, 40th in all time playoff assists and 58th in all time playoff points. Wayne Gretzky leads all categories with 122 goals, 260 assists and 382 points.

McDavid is 28 years old and probably has anywere from 10 to 15 more playoff runs in him. It's not looking good right now as McDavid seems like he's going to get eliminated by the Kings in the first round, but when it comes to the all time playoff numbers things are looking pretty bright for McDavid. Nobody around here probably doubts that McDavid will reach 200 playoff points and most will say he's pretty much a lock for 250. But could we see McDavid join Gretzky as the only other player with 300+ playoff points? Or could McDavid even take a run at some of Gretzky's playoff totals? He already broke Gretzky's single season assist record, 260 assists doesn't seem impossible as McDavid is a pass first player. Goals will probably be harder but 80-90 playoff goals seems doable. What do you think, how high can McDavid get in some of the all time playoff stat categories?

All those points are wonderful INDIVIDUAL achievements but until he is part of a TEAM that wins a Stanley Cup, their value, as well as his own as a post season TEAM player, are diminished.

 

[Draiskull]

Watch sure but you know damn well if McDavid doesnt win ever in EDM, those fans would trade this entire decade for one boring SC run where a Kopitar or Barkov wins a Cup for them.

i dont fully agree. A cup would certainly be great but younger Oilers fans have been happy with the current setup where Oilers keep making the playoffs and do well in it despite not winning. Older ones in their 30s\40s have probably lost good 5 to 10 years of their life due to stress from the decades of darkness. From 1992-2020 the Oilers went past round 2 only once.

 

[Draiskull]

May I interest you in a team located in Buffalo, NY?.

Buffalo has a player like McDavid to provide entertainment?
Get the next Bure and we shall see.

 

[Derailed75]

entertainment value is certainly higher with the 2nd player.

maybe not McDavid but i would rather watch Bedard or Michkov scoring 60 goals per season for next decade but never getting close to the cup than cheer for a team that is winning 2-1 games regularly and winning a cup or 2 in the process.

Hard pass would rather watch my team win lots of games year after year than suck a score lots of points.

Rings are the only blings that matter

 

[NyQuil]

 

[Big Trout]

He ain't getting any higher than me

 

[Draiskull]

Hard pass would rather watch my team win lots of games year after year than suck a score lots of points.

Rings are the only blings that matter

only 1 team gets the ring and as someone said its a TEAM that wins it and not an individual.
Oilers are consistently getting to 100 pt mark in regular seasons and have started to do some damage in playoffs. There are no guarantees that McDavid could go to any other club and guarantee greater success.

my point is that I would rather watch a club like Chicago, ANA and maybe even SJS for the next decade than a winning team like Carolina or STL

 

[landy]

i dont fully agree. A cup would certainly be great but younger Oilers fans have been happy with the current setup where Oilers keep making the playoffs and do well in it despite not winning. Older ones in their 30s\40s have probably lost good 5 to 10 years of their life due to stress from the decades of darkness. From 1992-2020 the Oilers went past round 2 only once.

That'd be a good poll to do. I can tell you as an Avs fan I can die happy after 2022. Give me 10 Harts and Norris's and its nothing compared to the Cup.

 

[Crossfire Hurricane]

That'd be a good poll to do. I can tell you as an Avs fan I can die happy after 2022. Give me 10 Harts and Norris's and its nothing compared to the Cup.

Yeah, but that team won and also played some of the most entertaining hockey I've ever watched. It'd be more like if the early 2000s Wild won a couple of Cups, kind of a miserable experience even if you're a fan.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Watch sure but you know damn well if McDavid doesnt win ever in EDM, those fans would trade this entire decade for one boring SC run where a Kopitar or Barkov wins a Cup for them.

Give the Oilers the goaltending that Kopitar and Barkov had, and McDavid has 2-3 cups already.

 

[landy]

Yeah, but that team won and also played some of the most entertaining hockey I've ever watched. It'd be more like if the early 2000s Wild won a couple of Cups, kind of a miserable experience even if you're a fan.

Right I cant imagine any Oilers fans are happy unless theyre now 55+ and were old enough to enjoy the 80s success. It would sting terribly if I had MacKinnon and Makar for a decade+ with no Cups to show for it.

 

[landy]

Give the Oilers the goaltending that Kopitar and Barkov had, and McDavid has 2-3 cups already.

Cap is a thing. And it obviously starts the argument that if you still had that defense prime Price couldnt even save you.

 

[SEALBound]

"I was gonna win the Stanley Cup...but then I got high!"

 

[ahmedou]

 

[Based Anime Fan]

If he’s with Nuke? Sky is the limit.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Cap is a thing. And it obviously starts the argument that if you still had that defense prime Price couldnt even save you.

But you were implying that McDavid was the reason that the Oilers hadn't won a cup.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Right I cant imagine any Oilers fans are happy unless theyre now 55+ and were old enough to enjoy the 80s success. It would sting terribly if I had MacKinnon and Makar for a decade+ with no Cups to show for it.

 

[Derailed75]

only 1 team gets the ring and as someone said its a TEAM that wins it and not an individual.
Oilers are consistently getting to 100 pt mark in regular seasons and have started to do some damage in playoffs. There are no guarantees that McDavid could go to any other club and guarantee greater success.

my point is that I would rather watch a club like Chicago, ANA and maybe even SJS for the next decade than a winning team like Carolina or STL

That's a personal choice good for you. I would rather watch a team win games than watch a player put up tons of points. Every now and than someone brings up Dan Marino as an example of a great player that never won a ring. No Dolphins fannin the right mind would rather have watched Marino never get over the hump but put up great number over say watching Trent Dilfer or Eli Manning win the Super Bowl.

 

[CN8]

Until there is a Cup, who cares. Give me a center who backchecks and wins a 2-1 game than puts up 5 points and loses 6-5.

 

[Kane One]

A night with me and I can get him absolutely blasted

 

[the_fan]

Depends on his tolerance level. For example I’ve heard Snoop smokes like 80 joints a day or used to smoke that much. I don’t think McDavid can get to that level, but he’s very talented and could maybe get close to that level

 

[Video Nasty]

That's a personal choice good for you. I would rather watch a team win games than watch a player put up tons of points. Every now and than someone brings up Dan Marino as an example of a great player that never won a ring. No Dolphins fannin the right mind would rather have watched Marino never get over the hump but put up great number over say watching Trent Dilfer or Eli Manning win the Super Bowl.

That’s because there’s zero nuance when it comes to many sports fans, particularly the youngest ones, who still believe that the players only care about the Cup and nothing else.

It’s a privilege to watch an all-time great QB like Marino suit up week in and week out. He didn’t lead the Dolphins to a Super Bowl win, but if you appreciate the craft and simply watching a master at work, that provides its own value. Watching Eli Manning fluke his way to a couple of Super Bowl wins doesn’t make me forget that he was a very average, often times subpar QB. Seeing Dilfer be competent surrounding by an all-time great defense doesn’t make me think any more or less of him. I don’t watch football for players like Eli Manning and Trent Dilfer, but I would tune in for someone like Marino, or Barry Sanders, or Randy Moss, or any of the other all-time greats among their positions who didn’t win a ring. I know the cities enjoyed the championships, but there’s multiple ways to enjoy sports.

I understand the “winning is the only thing that matters and everything else is a failure” mindset in sports, but I’m thankful for the journey above anything. I don’t necessarily need the payoff at the end to be able to appreciate what I’ve witnessed up to that point. It’s the same reason that a novel, movie, or show isn’t usually required to nail the ending for me to have loved it.

I’m originally from New England. I’ve seen my share of championships, to the point that it’s not particularly gratifying at this point in time. Perhaps that’s why I look at things the way I do now.

I’m quite confident McDavid will win at least one Cup, and it’s necessary to remove that wrinkle when debating his place amongst the all-time greats, but I consider it a privilege to be able to watch him perform each and every game. Years of that outweighs the fleeting good feeling of my hometown or where I’ve lived since, that comes with the culmination of a championship.

In fact, as a fan of the game, simply seeing him win it and throw off the critics once and for all, is more interesting to me than “winning” as a fan of something I realistically have zero part of. I don’t want to see them lose obviously, and I’m still invested in witnessing something great, but I don’t need it any more to complete my enjoyment.

As you said though, it’s all personal choice, but as someone part of the minority of why I continue to watch sports at this point in life, I appreciate when I do hear from someone like the poster you quoted.

 

[CN8]

Until there is a Cup, who cares. Give me a center who backchecks and wins a 2-1 game than puts up 5 points and loses 6-5.

Hinting a game with Skinner in net even has the ability to be 2-1. I think Landy is high lol

 

[Sniper99]

Surely we can do better than Tal Bachman.

 

[Czechboy]

Kudos to all the hf potheads. Some great references.lol.