SAS
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- Sep 29, 2017
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Rangers fan here. I wanted to see how Ryan Graves has looked so far for you guys. I saw that he scored 2 goals in his limited stint. I always liked Graves when he was with the Rangers. Thoughts?
Better than expected. What about Bigras?
He pinches like crazy but hasn't been burned for it yet.
How are his puck moving skills, I've not seen many games of late due to work, and **** play. does he have similar ability to Z in that regard?
How are his puck moving skills, I've not seen many games of late due to work, and **** play. does he have similar ability to Z in that regard?
Might turn out to be a good thing in the long run, though. I hope that's the case.Personally I think they've "overcoached" him a little. When he was playing his aggressive, albeit somewhat reckless, style, he was making a bigger difference. And as AJ noted, he was also damned lucky on a few instances that he wasn't burned badly when he took some of those chances. Nonetheless, there's a hesitancy to his game now that wasn't there a season ago, and I'm not sure, in this case, is that's what you do with a guy like this.
Maybe it's just me, but he hasn't looked particularly good. He looks like he's barely clinging to a spot. I have no idea if he's regressed, been "over coached" or what, but his play has been largely dumb and ineffective.
I'd be ok to see someone else get some time in his place. Timmons possibly. Hell, I'd be happier to just see Barbiero get time over him.
He's been very up and down, IMO, and I think he's overplayed and overmatched on the second pair with Makar. As a bottom pairing D, he's definitely a useful player, but he needs to be kept in that sheltered role to be most effective.
Problem is they've tried other guys up there alongside Makar and they were far worse. Warts and all, Graves is, for now, the best LHD the Avs have beyond Girard. Cole is still struggling to get back into game shape after surgery and Z just...isn't good enough for that role. I'd argue at least from a skating perspective, Graves is far better than EJ as well.