Well playing with Bozak somehow shot Kessel up from a 60 point guy to an 80 point guy.
How good is T. Bozak?
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Well playing with Bozak somehow shot Kessel up from a 60 point guy to an 80 point guy.
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KrisLetAngry
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Bozak is what he is and for under 5 million that's fantastic. Ye Kadri is better offensively. But who's gunna be the puck carrier and playmaker on the second? I think the second line would become too inefficient for a marginal increase on the first line. It's like a Malkin Crosby line.
Malkin and Crosby produce more together but not enough to justify ruining the second line.
Malkin and Crosby produce more together but not enough to justify ruining the second line.
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BonMorrison
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Bozak is a good 2nd line center that obviously can be used as a 1st line complimentary center.
Think Conroy and Iggy
Think Conroy and Iggy
Turris has comparable scoring rates to Bozak and a 10% better CF%. But sure, 'not quite as good as'.
Bozak is mediocre offensively and awful defensively. I would trade him for almost any of the top 60 scoring centers right now.
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When Bozak signed his multi year deal he was a UFA and Toronto had just bought out Grabovski, meaning they'd be going without any top six center had he went elsewhere. Nonis even said they barely talked to Weiss or any other center on the market.
Dave Nonis might be the worst general manager in the eastern conference.
Dave Nonis might be the worst general manager in the eastern conference.
Flames101
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Not to be a homer here but Bryan Little is the much strong player and plays great as a number one centre. Probably one of the most underrated players
Bozak is a nice piece on the Leafs. He puts up points, wins faceoffs, kills penalties, throws the body, back checks well and seems almost unstoppable on breakaways.
He is a good #2 imo. Great #3 on a contending team. I think he is doing fine as a #1 but receives unfair treatment sometimes. Compared to other #1 centers in the league he is near the bottom of the list no doubt. Isn't his fault but this is why most leaf fans really dislike him.
He is a good #2 imo. Great #3 on a contending team. I think he is doing fine as a #1 but receives unfair treatment sometimes. Compared to other #1 centers in the league he is near the bottom of the list no doubt. Isn't his fault but this is why most leaf fans really dislike him.
Flames101
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I agree bozak is miscast in his role. He should be a 2/3 line centre. He is one of the leafs forwards that does actually play the whole rink and seems like a pretty hard worker.
Callum
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How is Bozak awful defensively? He's not Bergeron or Datsyuk, but he's defensively aware, kills penalties (rather well) and is the guy to come out when playing with two men down. Better on faceoffs than Turris, better offensively as well.
It feels like Bozak just can't do anything right for some people.
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His WOWY stats are brutal, not sure how he can be said to be a low-end #1 or good #2. Doesn't drive possession or cycle well, and he doesn't really play like a center in the offensive zone IMO.
He does have a good knack for getting open and taking high percentage shots, but Kessel is the one ultimately driving the bus. Take away Kessel and he produces at the rate of a 3rd liner.
Maybe it's not his fault he was cast into the 1C role, but pretty much every advanced stat or analysis involving possession, zone entries, defensive zone exits, suggest that he is in over his head. Being on a 4M contract though and putting up points due to Kessel will cause some to overlook this.
He does have a good knack for getting open and taking high percentage shots, but Kessel is the one ultimately driving the bus. Take away Kessel and he produces at the rate of a 3rd liner.
Maybe it's not his fault he was cast into the 1C role, but pretty much every advanced stat or analysis involving possession, zone entries, defensive zone exits, suggest that he is in over his head. Being on a 4M contract though and putting up points due to Kessel will cause some to overlook this.
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So who remembers the "Is Tyler Bozak a true #1C" thread from late November? 
This thread was a lot more sensible. But kudos to everyone who could see that his lucky PPG totals back in Nov were inflating his stats and would regress. A shocking number of Leafs fans refused to accept the obvious. Well, since Nov 30th, this guy has scored a whopping TWO points on the PP, even though he's out on the ice on the top unit with Kessel/JVR/Franson every single time. That's bordering on Clarkson-level awful. Mind you, last year Bozak only had 3 PP assists all season in the same role, so being bad on the PP is par for the course for him.
Oh, and if you really want to see how ugly it is, check out these 5v5 stats taken from the Leafs board. Who's the healthy scratch again?
And since Grabovski was mentioned, yup, Nonis paid $14M in cold hard cash to make his cap hit go away so we could use it on this other guy.
This thread was a lot more sensible. But kudos to everyone who could see that his lucky PPG totals back in Nov were inflating his stats and would regress. A shocking number of Leafs fans refused to accept the obvious. Well, since Nov 30th, this guy has scored a whopping TWO points on the PP, even though he's out on the ice on the top unit with Kessel/JVR/Franson every single time. That's bordering on Clarkson-level awful. Mind you, last year Bozak only had 3 PP assists all season in the same role, so being bad on the PP is par for the course for him.
Oh, and if you really want to see how ugly it is, check out these 5v5 stats taken from the Leafs board. Who's the healthy scratch again?
And since Grabovski was mentioned, yup, Nonis paid $14M in cold hard cash to make his cap hit go away so we could use it on this other guy.
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No, he's not even as good as Stajan. Stajan could atleast do 50+ points, Bozak has never scored 50 points.
I really hope Bozak gets traded this year.
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I didn't say new and improved, just new.
But yeah, this might anger some Leafs fans (as some really hate Stajan or so I've seen) but I really think he's basically their new Stajan. A solid 2B/3A centre who can play in all situations but not be spectacular at any single aspect of the game.
- Solid enough to never be scratched, but not a player with wow factor.
- Reliability and consistency is key.
- Mentioned more for his 200-foot game than anything done in the offensive zone.
- "Good locker room guy" is a common descriptor as well.
Great type of player to have around when slotted in the right position, but because they lack that "spectacularity" to their game, you can't expect anything more out them. They're incredibly average, and they'll make a career out of it. Stajan already has.
Dr Pepper
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Never been "the guy", as much as Nonis seems to want him to be. 
He's in over his head on the top line but with a lack of a better option around, Bozak is fed the prime minutes. If the Leafs scored an actual top line center, they'd be much better. Shift Bozak down a line or two where his skill is more suited. I'm not sure what's taken Nonis so long to realize this.
He's in over his head on the top line but with a lack of a better option around, Bozak is fed the prime minutes. If the Leafs scored an actual top line center, they'd be much better. Shift Bozak down a line or two where his skill is more suited. I'm not sure what's taken Nonis so long to realize this.
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I didn't say new and improved, just new.
But yeah, this might anger some Leafs fans (as some really hate Stajan or so I've seen) but I really think he's basically their new Stajan. A solid 2B/3A centre who can play in all situations but not be spectacular at any single aspect of the game.
- Solid enough to never be scratched, but not a player with wow factor.
- Reliability and consistency is key.
- Mentioned more for his 200-foot game than anything done in the offensive zone.
- "Good locker room guy" is a common descriptor as well.
Great type of player to have around when slotted in the right position, but because they lack that "spectacularity" to their game, you can't expect anything more out them. They're incredibly average, and they'll make a career out of it. Stajan already has.
You should venture over to the Leafs board with that one...
FerrisRox
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FerrisRox
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Seriously. I don't know where this myth that Bozak is good defensively comes from. He is constantly turning the puck over in his own zone. Leafs fans are really fed up with this guy from what I can tell by reading their forum.
