Grand Admiral Thrawn
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How do I plan to support the Habs?
From the comfort of my couch!
From the comfort of my couch!
How do you plan to support the Habs?
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- Aug 22, 2006
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That wasn't my point. If you say you support a rebuild. How can you say that when you're not supporting the team?
Molson can keep the team mediocre and continue to make millions. While if a large portion of the fan base walks away during a rebuild. Where is the incentive for him to want a long, drawn out rebuild?
The RBC logo in and of itself is fine. The business has been trending that way for some time now. However, it does need a new place to live. Helmet, shoulder or pant leg.
habsgirl5000
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Yes, bingo,
A goalie doesn't count as a Superstar in my opinion,
I go to games to see goals scored,
If I wanted to see a 1-0 game, I would watch soccer
The incentive is to have a hockey team that wins, isn't that the entire point?
- Aug 22, 2006
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You crotchety old bastard, our line up is not filled with smurfs anymore lol
See this is what gets me. The majority of us wanted a rebuild. Hell we begged and bitched about it for months, some for years. Yet now that the rebuild is here, some (not just you my friend), don't have the stomach for it.
You know the expression "Be careful what you wish for". Well we wished for it, now we got it.
You would hope so. But the reality is, this is a business. Making money is right up there with winning. Sadly, maybe more so.
BLONG7
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Will watch some games this year, participate on our board here some, and try to keep expectations low, with out G and D we are going to struggle, but there are signs of coming out, so will still keep an eye on things..........
Hate to say it again, but we need another low end finsih in order to draft high again...............a rebuild needs TWO bad years, in order to come out with some hope of becoming a team that can sustain a consistent playoff push year after year.
Been a fan for over 50 years...........the Bergevin years were worse than the Houle years.......we have suffered long enough, the hockey gods surely will help us out the next season or two........
Hate to say it again, but we need another low end finsih in order to draft high again...............a rebuild needs TWO bad years, in order to come out with some hope of becoming a team that can sustain a consistent playoff push year after year.
Been a fan for over 50 years...........the Bergevin years were worse than the Houle years.......we have suffered long enough, the hockey gods surely will help us out the next season or two........
habsgirl5000
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Some people don't care what happens between the beginning of a rebuild and the end of it,
That doesn't mean they don't support it,
Think about it this way,
Let's say I have an old rusted out 1985 Camaro that I want completely rebuilt to a like new status,
The shop tells me it will take 6-12 months for them to accomplish that,
I don't care what happens in that 6-12 months, all I care about is the finished product,
Call me when it's done, and ready for pickup,
- Aug 22, 2006
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Nice comparison, well done.
The difference I see is rebuilding a Camaro can be done by using the exact parts. If you have a skilled mechanic/body man. The chances of the car not looking or being "new status" is probably unlikely. So unless you're a real car junkie. You probably won't care how or in what order the car will be done. As long as it's within budget and on time.
While even if you have the best management team. So many things can interfere in building a competitive team. Let's just call it the "human" factor. Players you count on can improve or get worse. Injuries happen which can cause negative effects. A young player say (Xhekaj) can come out of nowhere to help you rebuild. A player wants to join your team (Dubois) lol So many different factors, which can be exciting or boring I guess. Depending how you look at it.
Hey I am good.
We have needed to burn it down for regrowth for decades. But Molson Inc. wouldnt let that happen and then Molson wouldnt let that happen. Mediocrity with a bit of a run every now and then to keep the season ticket holders hanging in was just fine.
This is a rebuild and the guys at the top will not always be correct on a particular player, but the strategy is correct. Skill and speed priorities, add a coach who wants to develop and bring out the best in players development taken seriously it appears. correct direction.
I want Cups, not mediocrity. Pay the price and build a winner. You dont need to go Coyote bad, but you need to tade old for new and younger and better.
I will watch the team, talk to my friends about the team, be supportive, and be on this site brainstorming with the rest of you.
Interest fell off with Houle in charge also, but there is a large hardcore group that will hang in, or at least within shouting distance, and when the Habs show a spark, old fans will be back and new fans will be made just like when PK, Price, Patches etc came along.
GO HABS GO
We have needed to burn it down for regrowth for decades. But Molson Inc. wouldnt let that happen and then Molson wouldnt let that happen. Mediocrity with a bit of a run every now and then to keep the season ticket holders hanging in was just fine.
This is a rebuild and the guys at the top will not always be correct on a particular player, but the strategy is correct. Skill and speed priorities, add a coach who wants to develop and bring out the best in players development taken seriously it appears. correct direction.
I want Cups, not mediocrity. Pay the price and build a winner. You dont need to go Coyote bad, but you need to tade old for new and younger and better.
I will watch the team, talk to my friends about the team, be supportive, and be on this site brainstorming with the rest of you.
Interest fell off with Houle in charge also, but there is a large hardcore group that will hang in, or at least within shouting distance, and when the Habs show a spark, old fans will be back and new fans will be made just like when PK, Price, Patches etc came along.
GO HABS GO
General Fanager
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It's going to be a long year
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I want a rebuild, I want it blown apart, I just want the team to go down swinging so its exciting battling for the bottom 3 spots. My fear is the only players to watch (cole, nick... ) will be targets and then its a full AHL rebuild. If i'm the other teams, there are only 2 players to target, there isn't much to be worried about.
BehindTheTimes
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Will watch the kids to see how the team is trending and what the future may look like as long as toe nails and Marc Bergevin have nothing to do with the product I am watching.
If this management proves to be as incompetent as the last then my loyalty to the team will end with them.
If this management proves to be as incompetent as the last then my loyalty to the team will end with them.
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True, a majority of fans wanted a rebuild.
But they didn’t want it done by the prior administration cause they were incapable of it.
Fans also didn’t want it done with excess meddling from Geoff as a pretend hockey executive whose only mantra was to be competitive every year.
Those who wanted a state of the art organization, that includes a VPHO and a GM, have it. Add to that an outside the box head coach, an emphasis on development and analytics and a revamped approach to drafting and less involvement by Geoff (as far as we can tell) — those fans were served in spades.
This is what a lot of fans wished for and seeing it being delivered now, it makes you wonder what took so long for ownership to wake up.
There are no regrets whatsoever about the path we’ve embarked on, under HuGo. I’d wish for this 24 hours a day. There is nothing to be careful about, we finally have a 21st century organization.
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The Gr8 Dane
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I am proud to be the biggest Montreal Canadien fan I personally know all while never giving a dime to the organisation since the Gillet days. Not a big Molson guy sadly. (I have a ticket hook up tho or else i'd be screwed)
- Aug 22, 2006
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We want the same thing brother. Trust me, I'm tired of watching the same old shit year after year.
Our first preseason game, we lost to the Devils. Our second preseason game, we lost to the Leafs. I know you're sitting there saying "Ok captain obvious, what's your point, I'm a busy guy".
My point is the first game was probably one of the most exciting games I've watched in awhile. Yes we lost, which I'm still trying to get used too. But IMO the game was exciting, and we battled. Which is what I'm expecting our team to do this year.
That's a valid fear that I think most rebuilding teams have had to face. They have a couple of players that stand out from the rest. Which is why they're probably rebuilding in the first place. What I'm hoping for is while opposing teams pay much closer attention to Suzuki and Caufield. Others will step up their game, taking advantage of the situation.
LaP
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I'll definitely keep supporting our tank commander Montombeau.
I’ll still watch all 82 games no matter what. If I lived in Montreal I would still go to a few games a year but I am across Canada so another Montreal trip will have to wait until they are good
- Aug 22, 2006
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Thank you for wording that so elegantly. This is the point that I'm confused about. HuGo may not be perfect, and they are going to make decisions that not all of us will agree upon.
We wanted positive change, and we got it. We wanted leadership to provide a direction and they have. We wanted leadership to be more open with the fans. They've done that as well. So why walk away from the team now?
As for the decision taking so long. I wish I knew the answer. I just wish I had kicked Geoff's ass in day camp years ago, when I had the chance lol
It took me awhile, since I hate change. But I slowly came around. I think @HabsWhiteKnightLOL finally wore me down lol But I fully accept and am happy with the team's new focus. I for one am excited about this year. I know it will be painful. But I'm willing to tough it out and see where this ride goes.
What took so long ?
Money., and they wrapped that up with ...." but this is Montreal, Montreal is unlike other cities, we do not rebuild ". So they play to the egos, of how we are different, and the media and many fans lap it up, so we bumble around in mediocrity and that is fine, because we are Montreal.
Bergevin screwed things up so bad at the end though, there is no escaping it. At the Cap, the D is in shambles, maybe one top 6C ( now we know yes, Suzuki is that ) , and no starting goalie. We cant even be mediocre because I will tell, you, if we could have been, I bet Molson goes that route. But alas , no, so he decides to bring in a guy who blew up the Rags, to do his thing. and so we have a rebuild. Thank frig.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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Don't get me wrong , i love the new approach but the Romanov trade and Slaf were horrible for me but that doesn't mean I don't like the overall changes
First overall picks- 2 since 1980
Number of cups in that time- 2
I think that says it all. You don't win without star talent.
You are absolutely right about needing to burn it down after decades.
- Aug 22, 2006
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That's fair, like I mentioned. We're not always going to agree with their decisions. I like Slaf, but I'm not 100% sure on him yet. I'm a huge Romanov fan, but I'm willing to put that aside to see what Dach can bring. Though if I look at the big picture, and compare it to the past. So far I'm happy.
