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[LongTimeDRWF]

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NHL Trade Rumors: 3 Red Wings Trade Candidates

The Detroit Red Wings are in the middle of a tight Eastern Conference wild-card race, sitting three points out of the final Wild Card spot. ...

www.nhltraderumors.me

Mentions: Talbot/Holl/Veleno.



A package around Veleno/Holl+ for Cozens/Zegras isn't crazy imo.

Idk if the goalies are in the picture but we'll see come TDL.

I can SY trading either of Lyon or Talbot if it makes the team better for his anticipated widow, but I can also see SY signing Lyon to a 2-3 year extension, knowing that the injuring history of both Lyon and Talbot will offer a lot of opportunity for Cossa next year if he sees the team as being a divisional playoff spot contender in 2025/26.

If the wings are still quite firmly in the thick of things in a month's time, I don't see SY making any big moves unless it is too good to turn down, the team is still more than a piece away from being cup contenders.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Connor Murphy from Chicago ain't all that bad. Someone mentioned Jan Rutta from SJ. Maybe Schenn from Nashville, although I hear he kinda sucks.

Trouba half retained?

Schenn as a 3rd pairing guy would be fine. 17-18 minutes, heavy PK usage.”, can play gritty. He’d stabilize the 3rd pair.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

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NHL Trade Rumors: 3 Red Wings Trade Candidates

The Detroit Red Wings are in the middle of a tight Eastern Conference wild-card race, sitting three points out of the final Wild Card spot. ...

www.nhltraderumors.me

Mentions: Talbot/Holl/Veleno.



A package around Veleno/Holl+ for Cozens/Zegras isn't crazy imo.

Idk if the goalies are in the picture but we'll see come TDL.

Yes a package with those players for cozens/zebras is insanity lmao

Veleno being gone has been a sure thing for a while 0% chance has there next season . Wed be lucky to get a 4th

 

[Snuggs]

I think Ducks would do a deal like for Zegras easily. He's not playing that well. Idk if Red Wings would want him outside of a move with those players involved.

Veleno, Holl, 3rd round pick for Trevor Zegras isn't crazy, you're essentially taking a risk he'll restart his career from 2/3 years ago. Cozen's you might have to pay a little more up for, but he's signed long-term and to bigger cash.


* Chicago's ready to deal too, try and get RHD Alex Martinez. Veteran, hometown guy.

 

[jkutswings]

Veleno, Holl, 3rd round pick for Trevor Zegras isn't crazy

It's a lot better than not crazy. 3 lousy assets for 1 question mark is a win in my book.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

I think Ducks would do a deal like for Zegras easily. He's not playing that well. Idk if Red Wings would want him outside of a move with those players involved.

Veleno, Holl, 3rd round pick for Trevor Zegras isn't crazy. Cozen's you might have to pay a little more up for but he's signed long-term and to bigger cash.

It's crazy

Holl is garbage , we should be paying them to take him on ... veleno is a 4th liner and a 3rd rd meh

Zegras's production has declined no doubt. I'd still take him, had back to back 60+ pt seasons super skilled 23 years old

Ducks will trade him but they wont give him away. I think they get a late 1st from a cup contender at least

You say these players are thrash but you want them and dont want to give anything but our trash lol

2nd rd + plante + berggren at least and no way its enough... I'd do it cause I think a change of scenery would do him good but I cant see yzerman ever making a trade for him

If verbeek doesnt want zegras, yzerman wont

It's a lot better than not crazy. 3 lousy assets for 1 question mark is a win in my book.

Not crazy for us ... crazy for us to think verbeek wouldnt laugh at that offer and hang up

 

[jkutswings]

Not crazy for us ... crazy for us to think verbeek wouldnt laugh at that offer and hang up

Fair. Zegras is making $5.75M. Rasmussen and Veleno are $5.48M combined. What would each team say to that exchange?

 

[Snuggs]

You say these players are thrash but you want them and dont want to give anything but our trash lol

Idk, maybe that's just my point of view of all players involved, even Cozen's. I really don't value Trevor Zegras that much. I really ok not even making a move for him outside of what you said, moving around trash for some "perceived" upside trash.

I guess it is crazy, I wouldn't even give a 2nd round pick straight up so...

Guy I'd target for a smiliar package would be RHD Alec Martinez from Chicago.

In trades I just have the bar low now, and it seems some additons have been made by subtracting guys minutes/time(Holl/Compher/Veleno/Motte)

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Fair. Zegras is making $5.75M. Rasmussen and Veleno are $5.48M combined. What would each team say to that exchange?

He might get enticed cause ducks are a big team and would like Rasmussen and what he could be. Dont think yzerman has given up on him yet

I just cant see yzerman being in on zegras , veerbeek and yzerman are too similar so if verbeek is fed up with zegras yzerman wont be interested

Idk, maybe that's just my point of view of all players involved, even Cozen's. I really don't value Trevor Zegras that much.

I guess it is crazy, I wouldn't even give a 2nd round pick straight up so...

That's cool man we all have our own opinions... I just think the guy obviously has skill and for whatever reason hes not producing. I think if he gets dealt he can go back to 50-65 pt range

I just wouldnt give up a ton but I would give up a 2nd and plante only cause of buchelnikov nygaard finnie Lombardi etc... already in the pipeline

Just cant see yzerman showing interest

 

[jkutswings]

He might get enticed cause ducks are a big team and would like Rasmussen and what he could be. Dont think yzerman has given up on him yet

I just cant see yzerman being in on zegras , veerbeek and yzerman are too similar so if verbeek is fed up with zegras yzerman wont be interested

You might be right - I could see Yzerman not wanting to take a chance on Zegras. I guess I'm just looking for ways to get Moose and Joey outta here while trying to find another scoring piece.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

You might be right - I could see Yzerman not wanting to take a chance on Zegras. I guess I'm just looking for ways to get Moose and Joey outta here while trying to find another scoring piece.

Think wed be lucky to get a 4th for 4th liner veleno .... think Rasmussen stays for a while , hes doing good now with soderblom

Id do 2nd + veleno for oleksiak

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Zegras is not a good option..

I can see the appeal of Cozens and adding a capable veteran dman...apart from that nothing else makes much sense

 

[raymond23]

I just don’t see the point right now of adding Petterson/Cozens simply due to the financial risk. They are both severely underperforming their contracts. I guess if you really believe in the player, but it’s scary