How do you fix the Wings?

redwingsfannn9191

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Let McLellan experiment a bit. Just because it's not exactly how you'd do it doesn't mean it can't work.

Pretty clear they want Kasper at center btw.
Could have tried him on wing for a bit to get his confidence going or center kane and debrincat. I agree I expect kasper to be a center at one point unless we end up with a hagens
 

PelagicJoe

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1. Get better scouts.
2. Petry and Holl are gone after this year, so that improves us without really doing anything.
3. Upgrade Gus and/or Chiarot.
4. Get some legit scoring wingers on the 2nd line.
5. ASP on D, Cossa in net next year.
6. Pray that Danielson, Mazur, Buch become studs
 

better Red than Dead

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I would look to acquire a power forward or some forwards who use their size and grit. Lawson Crouse is a perfect fit, I know he’s not available per se but he would be the type I’d be after. They need guys who do tie dirty work and too many of their players play the perimeter
 

ElProfessor

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Dec 28, 2024
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Two basic questions...

1) Is Wallinder in the same situation next season as Johansson is this season? Where he'll need to go through waivers to get to GR (and thus be in Detroit the entire yr).

Johansson <---------------> Wallinder
2019 Draft. <---------------> X
2020 SHL <---------------> 2020 Draft
2021 SHL <---------------> 2021 SHL
2022 GR <---------------> 2022 SHL
2023 GR <---------------> 2023 GR
2024 Detroit <---------------> 2024 GR
2025 Detroit <---------------> 2025 Detroit?

...

2) Nvm. I didn't realize Buchelnikov had signed a KHL extension through the 2025-26 season 🙄
 
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Winger98

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Two basic questions...

1) Is Wallinder in the same situation next season as Johansson is this season? Where he'll need to go through waivers to get to GR (and thus be in Detroit the entire yr).

Johansson <---------------> Wallinder
2019 Draft. <---------------> X
2020 SHL <---------------> 2020 Draft
2021 SHL <---------------> 2021 SHL
2022 GR <---------------> 2022 SHL
2023 GR <---------------> 2023 GR
2024 Detroit <---------------> 2024 GR
2025 Detroit <---------------> 2025 Detroit?
capwages is saying he doesn't need to pass thru waivers until 26/27. So he can still move up and down next year.
 

ElProfessor

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Looking at the stats of the top 3 UFA LHD over the last 5 seasons (thank you, Grok):

*Attempt to summarize..
1) Chychrun is the only one with injury history...and Chychrun/Provorov are workhorses.
2) Chychrun is the best offensively, followed closely by Provorov.
3) Pettersson is the best defensively...Chychrun/Provorov about equally bad.
4) Not a huge difference between the 3 in terms of physicality...but it goes Chychrun-1, Pettersson-2, Provorov-3.

.....

Jakub Chychrun:
26
6'2, 215
304 games (79%)...........Last
24:36 avg TOI..........1st
175 pts (0.58 per/g)..........1st
-67 (-13.4 per/season)...........Last
452 hits (1.49 per/g)..........1st

Marcus Pettersson:
28
6'3, 200
371 games (96%)..........1st
20:45 avg TOI...........Last
99 pts (0.27 per/g)..........Last
+53 (+10.6 per/season)..........1st
490 hits (1.32 per/g)...........2nd

Ivan Provorov:
27
6-1, 201
368 games (96%)..........1st
24:46 avg TOI..........1st
169 pts (0.5 per/g)..........2nd
-51 (-10.2 per/season)...........2nd
466 hits (1.27 per/g)...........Last

.....

You want ASP with a sound defensive partner, so you basically have two options...

Edvinsson---Seider
Pettersson---ASP

or

Chychrun/Provorov---Seider
Edvinsson---ASP

.....

Assuming we could get any of the 3 (stupid assumption)...

I would take Provorov > Chychrun bc of the injury history.

Not sure if I would take Provorov > Pettersson. But I suspect Yzerman would prefer the better defender.
 
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Gniwder

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Let McLellan experiment a bit. Just because it's not exactly how you'd do it doesn't mean it can't work.

Pretty clear they want Kasper at center btw.

Joey has all the tools, Todd is trying to see if he can build Joey a toolbox. In the middle of a season, it's a lot easier to try to coach position and strategy to a kid with all of the tools then it is to teach Kasper how to drive the net and shoot.

Todd is trying to unlock Joey's potential, Joey was on PK2 with Raz in the last game. DBoss and Ray are good penalty killers, but they're needed more on PP and ES than PK.

I doubt Todd will be able to fix Joey's offensive game but it's definitely worth a shot. It's pretty evident that Joey has low hockey IQ. I think he'll do OK on the PK, Fester should have used him more.
 

ElProfessor

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Imagine this team in McLellan's 3rd season...2026-27

Let's say
1) We sign a top-4 LHD this summer (Pettersson, for ex.)
2) We sign a top-6 W next summer (hometown Kyle Connor, for ex.)

Not completely unrealistic.

Connor---Larkin---Raymond
DeBrincat---Danielson (2nd yr)---2025 1st (R yr)
Mazur (2nd yr)---Kasper---MBN (R yr)
Buchelnikov (R yr)---Compher---Berggren

Edvinsson---Seider
Pettersson---ASP (2nd yr)
Wallinder (R yr)---Johansson

Cossa (2nd yr)
??? or Augustine (R yr)
 

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