Speculation: How Do You Expect To Feel About The Avs 2024-25 Deadline?

[dahrougem2]

Very disappointed because I believe CMac has handcuffed himself this season. Don't get me wrong, I won't blame him if he's not overly aggressive this TDL because even he must surely see the writing on the wall: this is a Wildcard, out-in-5/6-games team in the West this season. They're not very good.

IMO the real test is the offseason, where he NEEDS to get rid of:

- Valeri Nichushkin
- Casey Mittelstadt
- Josh Manson
- Ross Colton
- Miles Wood

Honestly, I've become so incredibly apathetic to the Avs this season that I wouldn't blame CMac if he became a seller at the TDL. Send Manson to a team of his liking for the best possible return, send Mittelstadt to a team looking for a center for the best possible return, punt Miles Wood to anyone willing to take him, see if Colton is willing to waive for NJ/NYI/NYR and send him there for literally anything, and see if you can find a taker for Nichushkin in a hockey trade where you get a lesser-but-healthier player back.

Load up on futures, make requisite draft/UFA moves and reload for next training camp.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

I expect to be disappointed.

I don't think my disappointment will come from the lack of moves, as I simply don't see a 2C and 2RD available that we can acquire, but rather the realization that we're wasting another year of Nate and Cale.

This is where I am. He'll make moves, but I don't trust they will be the right moves (his history the last 3 years tells us they won't be), nor do I see them solving enough of what is wrong with this team.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

I highly doubt the Avs will be able to make the necessary moves to compete for a cup. Therefore, I'm fine if they don't do much.

 

[Balthazar]

Very disappointed because I believe CMac has handcuffed himself this season. Don't get me wrong, I won't blame him if he's not overly aggressive this TDL because even he must surely see the writing on the wall: this is a Wildcard, out-in-5/6-games team in the West this season. They're not very good.

IMO the real test is the offseason, where he NEEDS to get rid of:

- Valeri Nichushkin
- Casey Mittelstadt
- Josh Manson
- Ross Colton
- Miles Wood

Honestly, I've become so incredibly apathetic to the Avs this season that I wouldn't blame CMac if he became a seller at the TDL. Send Manson to a team of his liking for the best possible return, send Mittelstadt to a team looking for a center for the best possible return, punt Miles Wood to anyone willing to take him, see if Colton is willing to waive for NJ/NYI/NYR and send him there for literally anything, and see if you can find a taker for Nichushkin in a hockey trade where you get a lesser-but-healthier player back.

Load up on futures, make requisite draft/UFA moves and reload for next training camp.

Vets on this team would never accept that. Try to sell this plan to Mack.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

Cautiously optomistic. Cmac has taken a lot of wrong turns the past few years. But he has proven to be agressive in fixing those mistakes. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until the 7th.

CMac is very hit or miss. A complete turd decision followed by a solid piece of business multiple times. I guess it all averages to a meh GM tenure at best.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

I highly doubt the Avs will be able to make the necessary moves to compete for a cup. Therefore, I'm fine if they don't do much.

Probably the best approach but another season lost. Hurts so much.

 

[Balthazar]

CMac is very hit or miss. A complete turd decision followed by a solid piece of business multiple times. I guess it all averages to a meh GM tenure at best.

CMac is getting killed by this team's inability to draft and develop NHLers. He has to build a team with trades and it's tough because other teams only want to send you their crap.

 

[dahrougem2]

Vets on this team would never accept that. Try to sell this plan to Mack.

Of course not, nor do I think it's prudent to waste another year of MacKinnon/Makar but this team is going nowhere with a bunch of glut.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

CMac is getting killed by this team's inability to draft and develop NHLers. He has to build a team with trades and it's tough because other teams only want to send you their crap.

That also ultimately falls on CMac, get guys who can. It is a huge issue though.

Sakic made it work with multiple successive slam dunks and not a lot of errors once he got going, a pretty tough act to follow. CMac keeps making mistakes which he can't afford since the drafting won't bail him out.

 

[dahrougem2]

That also ultimately falls on CMac, get guys who can. It is a huge issue though.

Sakic made it work with multiple successive slam dunks and not a lot of errors once he got going, a pretty tough act to follow. CMac keeps making mistakes which he can't afford since the drafting won't bail him out.

Let's not forget Sakic from 2013-2019 was basically a disaster of a GM. Some of that due to Roy but some of that due to his own decision making as well.

Yes, he gets credit for building the cup winner but CMac also had a hand in that - let's not forget people like LeBrun/Friedman gave CMac all the credit for getting the Matt Duchene trade back on track which worked out wonderfully for the Avs.

I hate his acquisitions of Colton/Wood/Mittelstadt but it is what it is at this point.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

Let's not forget Sakic from 2013-2019 was basically a disaster of a GM. Some of that due to Roy but some of that due to his own decision making as well.

Yes, he gets credit for building the cup winner but CMac also had a hand in that - let's not forget people like LeBrun/Friedman gave CMac all the credit for getting the Matt Duchene trade back on track which worked out wonderfully for the Avs.

I hate his acquisitions of Colton/Wood/Mittelstadt but it is what it is at this point.

Yeah Sakic sucked more than an one eyed crack ho at the start. Once he did get going the results were seriously impressive, especially with the Avs disaster drafting.

Sakic had the fortunate situation where the Avs could be terrible. CMac on the other hand had to hit the ground running day one or he would hurt the cup chances.

 

[Jasenr]

I think you and him are saying literally the exact same thing.

Atleast I think I was

EDIT: Yeah he was earlier on the decision timeline so no.

 

[The Abusement Park]

This TDL will end in disappointment due to the amount of work this team needs more than anything. I would imagine CMac will make some good moves, it's just that there's too many holes to fix at the deadline I think.

 

[cinchronicity]

I don't think it is possible to forecast anything but major disappointment. Why?

1) There simply is not a big supply of 2C, 2RD, and affordable 5D and 6D.
1a) Compounding this derth is the fact that Bednar requires a very specific type of player, and - frankly - I do not think there are ANY solutions in the market that will fit into Bendar's now very predictable and defensible 'system.'
2) Perhaps CMac knows that Landy is 100% and is being overly careful about announcing that so as to maximize LTIR room. Still, I suspect that Landy will be little more than a $7M AAV 3LW, which is unsustainable. It was a mistake to give that contract to Landy before the ink even dried. Now, 3 years later, that is a complete disaster of a contract.
3) The Avs really don't have much capital with which to make 'hockey trades.' Nuke remains untouchable because of the Bolivian Marching Powder. Landy has had a massive injury. Colton has the NMC. Toews has an NMC. Gulyayev, Nabakov and Ritchie all appear to have potential to be NHL contributors, but none is an ultra-elite prospect and Behrens is injured.
4) Finally, we have traded away too many valuable draft choice to correct previous mistakes. This handcuffs CMac when discussing retention on a guy like Jones.

Ultimately, I think there are only two choices:

a) Do nothing and waste at least 1 and likely 2 years of Makar and Mac's prime ( then the rest of their careers as well.)

b) Really swing for the fences, though I know this won't happen and on the odd chance that it does, it would be during the summer, thus making the TD a disappointment. But it surely is apparent to CMac that this team, as constructed, is unlikely to get out of the 2nd round...ever! I don't think he needs to 'rebuild' as he has the best 1C, the best 1D, and a goalie who may just be our best since prime Varly. I say that everyone else should be on the block for the right offer. This includes Toews, Girard, Manson, Necas, colton, Wood, Nuke and all the other nobodies that inhabit the roster. I'd keep Lehky, LOC and Drouin on the 'barely touchable' list since they are all outperforming their contracts.

While mostly unrelated to this poll, I think CMac needs to send pink slips to Bennett, Pratt, and Bednar by midnight on the day the Avs are eliminated. Unless they win a cup ( and my money would be on DeHaan being the guy who dents the cup this time) the entire coaching staff needs to go. The rest of the league has figured out Bednar's 'system' and it is virtually impossible to get a full roster of player who can play that way anyway. But why do that, when other teams have the solution to this absolutely STUPID system? Carbery and the Capitals turned a bad situation around in a single season. The right coach ( David Carle?) can do the same for the Avalanche. This is just me personally, but I would be willing to fire all three this evening. This team is not winning a cup this year. Every day this team languishes with this stupid system is a day they could be developing a new system which takes advantage of the players actually on the roster.