Proposal: Holloway
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More likely to end up on waivers than be offer sheeted
Kotkaniemi and Penner are the offer sheets that worked in the cap era.
Kesler, Vanek, Backes, Steve Bernier, Hjallmarsson, Weber, O'Reilly and Aho also signed one, but they were matched.
8 of those between 2006 and 2013.
5 years pause.
2 between 2019 and 2021.
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Could work!! Their money is tied up elsewhere.
Especially because the Oilers will have to pay Bouchard much more than Nurse (so at least 9.5M) and given that Oilers fans think Bouchard is eliteeliteelite it won't be cheap!!
Especially because the Oilers will have to pay Bouchard much more than Nurse (so at least 9.5M) and given that Oilers fans think Bouchard is eliteeliteelite it won't be cheap!!
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ElPrimeTime
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Can't see a scenario where Holloway isn't brought back, at the very least, on a 1 year, show me type deal.
Oilers have almost $10M in cap space, add in $3.9M with Campbell's buyout with the only pieces you'd really want to bring back as Holloway, Broberg and Desharnais. I don't anticipate any of those three players getting more than $2M a season next year. If Broberg is back, Kulak or Ceci are probably gone which also frees up another $2.75-$3.25M.
Holloway has shown this post season what he can bring, a 1 year/$3M deal would be matched for sure.
Oilers have almost $10M in cap space, add in $3.9M with Campbell's buyout with the only pieces you'd really want to bring back as Holloway, Broberg and Desharnais. I don't anticipate any of those three players getting more than $2M a season next year. If Broberg is back, Kulak or Ceci are probably gone which also frees up another $2.75-$3.25M.
Holloway has shown this post season what he can bring, a 1 year/$3M deal would be matched for sure.
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The offer sheets worked in the sense that the teams that made the offer sheet got the player. However, both teams likely wished that they had never made the offer because neither player was very good. The reality is that if a player is actually good, their team always matches.
Scintillating10
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He's former 14th overall pick. Has size, good wheels. Some upside there. Oilers hard against cap. Especially if they buy out Campbell
cap is a real thing
cost of forcing compliance is real
Lindgren rfa rights figure 3.75 - 4.25 per x 4, maybe 4 x 2
Robertson, , 2nd rnd LD prospect rfa rights
Henriksson, 2nd rnd C prospect pending rfa
Leschyshyn, 2nd rnd W a 766,667 expiring
for
Oil late 2024 2nd
Holloway
Broberg
Lavoie
why Oil:
Lindgren helps immediately
Robertson = big LD prospect for some reason [bias favoring Jones?] Rs did not develop, Knob likely knows, can get something out of him
Broberg reasonably likely to continue to next step, and next step after, but time
Holloway not a disaster but not showing anything for a mid 1st pick
Lavoie could turn into something but seeking instant help/cap relief
2nd this yr is a wince but it is late
Hen = not renewed
Les = bury in minors, does not count vs cap or give away
so cap saved, repurposed
Lindgren helps and possibly cushions if Ceci/his cap moved
Rangers:
Lindgren + Robertson likely gets 2 good 2nds + 3rd MIN from UT, which offer Oil must beat.
NY adds speed, height
late 2nd is another pick
Broberg, Holloway = we'll see
Lavoie as a pivot prospect makes this worthwhile
cost of forcing compliance is real
Lindgren rfa rights figure 3.75 - 4.25 per x 4, maybe 4 x 2
Robertson, , 2nd rnd LD prospect rfa rights
Henriksson, 2nd rnd C prospect pending rfa
Leschyshyn, 2nd rnd W a 766,667 expiring
for
Oil late 2024 2nd
Holloway
Broberg
Lavoie
why Oil:
Lindgren helps immediately
Robertson = big LD prospect for some reason [bias favoring Jones?] Rs did not develop, Knob likely knows, can get something out of him
Broberg reasonably likely to continue to next step, and next step after, but time
Holloway not a disaster but not showing anything for a mid 1st pick
Lavoie could turn into something but seeking instant help/cap relief
2nd this yr is a wince but it is late
Hen = not renewed
Les = bury in minors, does not count vs cap or give away
so cap saved, repurposed
Lindgren helps and possibly cushions if Ceci/his cap moved
Rangers:
Lindgren + Robertson likely gets 2 good 2nds + 3rd MIN from UT, which offer Oil must beat.
NY adds speed, height
late 2nd is another pick
Broberg, Holloway = we'll see
Lavoie as a pivot prospect makes this worthwhile
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ManofSteel55
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I think the Oilers match, but I also don't think NHL GM's are in the business of taking that kind of gamble. Why roll the dice on a guy like Holloway when you could use that money to get an actual 3M player. Holloway looks like he could be, but has done little to warrant more than a minimum raise so far.
ChaoticOrange
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Edmonton's cap is 100% fine next year.
They have 10 million to play with and nobody important to re-sign and that's before any moves.
and with a potential 3 million dollar offer sheet, the compensation is a 2nd and the club has to have their own picks in place, which Montreal does not. Someone else could do it, sure, but OP's favourite team couldn't.
They have 10 million to play with and nobody important to re-sign and that's before any moves.
and with a potential 3 million dollar offer sheet, the compensation is a 2nd and the club has to have their own picks in place, which Montreal does not. Someone else could do it, sure, but OP's favourite team couldn't.
ElPrimeTime
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Absolutely not. The premise of this thread was that the Oilers can't afford Holloway, how can they afford Lindgren's $4M all of a sudden. Both Holloway and Broberg will come in combined less than that next year.
He has 18 career points in 89 gp. 9 pts. in 38 gp this past season. No one cares that he a 14th oa pick, with those sorts of numbers. He is 30th in his draft year in points, and some with less points in the same draft such as Kaiser would have just as much value.
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I didn't follow the Oilers as closely this season, I was watching other teams.. But Holloway showed real flashes of being something last season. If the Oilers move off of him or can be put in a spot to lose him for a 2nd, a team would be smart to get him.
Maybe the Sharks can call up Holland and say look we want him, let's make a deal for him or we'll offersheet him.
Maybe the Sharks can call up Holland and say look we want him, let's make a deal for him or we'll offersheet him.
ManofSteel55
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How are the Oilers hard against the cap? Buying out Campbell would give us cap relief, unless the plan is to go out and sign another 5M goalie. I doubt that is the plan.
ChaoticOrange
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everyone keeps saying the Oilers are against the cap and honestly I don't see it.
in 25-26 they will be welded at a subatomic level against the cap, but next year, all is good. Assuming we buy out Campbell we've got 14 million and nobody big to sign.
