Kings News: Holland officially GM

[funky]

I would consider trading Moore but Spence isn’t making much now. Makes more sense to actually let him play.

It’s obvious the coaching stuff doesn’t trust him and we need a bit of size on our right side. If we’re in win now mode, I just don’t see us keeping him unless they plan on moving Clarke for a bigger fish.

 

[Statto]

Agree. but its a step in the right direction - to have a different voice, and the status quo needs a change. I mean Brown gave up the C, so why not Kopi?

Well he didn’t give it up but I take your point. I’m not against a shake up because to my point about Kempe, Kopitar doesn’t need a letter to be a leader.

I do think that changing all the Captains is a good way of giving younger players more responsibility and may make them step up in a variety of ways. So for argument sake Kempe (C), Q and Anderson as the Captains. Perhaps it (responsibility) makes all three play with more fire. I would personally make a change because it’s time but without knowing how the players are in the room I can’t say who I’d give letters to.

 

[Schrute farms]

It’s obvious the coaching stuff doesn’t trust him and we need a bit of size on our right side. If we’re in win now mode, I just don’t see us keeping him unless they plan on moving Clarke for a bigger fish.

It certainly does feel like a lock that one of Spence or Clarke is gone. Spence most likely, but Clarke has much more value.

 

[funky]

Neither 8 or 11 are leaders.. cant wait for their retirement party. Iim bored with everything about them. Time for the next gen. Give Kempe the C, cut minutes for 8 and 11 for starters.

I am the opposite. These two would be perfect supplemental players if the team had been constructed right, and the right players would’ve been put around them. There is two tiers to that, however.

First tier is on ice product:

Now, if we could go into next season with our right side defense looking like

Dobson- Doughty - Clarke

I would be more than happy. Good leadership is convincing Drew that he’s no longer a 25 minute a night player, but we should be able to count on him to provide a solid 20 minutes a night, solid penalty, killing with the reduced minutes, and possibly some mop up power play time. Right now at 35 years old coming off an injury he’s no longer that alpha male.

Second tier is leadership:

It is always a great thing to have experienced leadership in the room, but they’re also needs to be young leadership that is super hungry and pushes the older players to play better. I also think that leaders have to be somebody that sway the ice product. They always talk about Anderson being a future leader, but he’s not the guy on the ice that anyone is going to follow as a skills just or not there. Byfield looks like he wants to run and hide at any sign of confrontation. I don’t know the dressing room dynamics or the players well enough. Possibly a guy like Laf with the way he plays, may have leadership qualities? As much as he’s hated, I’d kill for a guy like Brady Tkachuk. There is a guy with grit and skill that can be a complete a-hole. I cannot see a guy like that sitting in the dressing room and letting his team get caved in without doing something in the room or on the ice.

It’s kind of a mixed bag. As much as Drew and Anze’s contracts have set the Kings up to fail, the kings have also set those two up to fail.

No matter what ever happens they’re gonna be at the top of the leaderboard’s in our franchise history, but more important is they helped bring us our first two Stanley cups.

 

[Herby]

Kings Of The Podcast, Ep. 229 – New LA GM Ken Holland

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Hoven had a short interview with Ken Holland. Some major points that caught my attention.

- Yannetti is staying in his position. Since his staff have worked all season and Holland was in Hockey Ops, he didn't do any amateur scouting. Yannetti will be running the draft
- He "spoke with" Kopitar for over an hour and "listened to" Doughty for over an hour
- Identity he wants the team to have in one word: determination
- Asked about the game 3 challenge, since he was in the situation room. He said he was on the periphery, but passively defended Hiller's challenge as far as not calling it bad, just that you never know. Pointed out the Kings were up 3-1 in game 4, and alluded to the challenge not being a backbreaking decision.
- Asked about Tyler Wright and Brad Holland. Hoven didn't ask him to commit to who he'd be bringing in, but based on how much he spoke about both, there's a decent sense at least one will be brought in.

Was working too so if I missed some details, I'm sorry. It was a much shorter interview out of respect for Holland's time.

If Hiller is back as HC and Yannetti is back as head-scout over Holland's boy, well it might tell you Czar Luc is still making all the calls.

I would expect Ty Wright to be the Kings lead scout starting next season, if Holland has the authority to make that call.

So you know what is going to happen? Yannetti to Tampa and he suddenly starts hitting home-runs every year like Al Murray.

 

[The Butcher]

What a concept.

 

[The Butcher]

I'm just about convinced that Drew Doughty is one of the biggest issues with this team.

I love him for what he did, but facts are facts: the team plays better without him in the lineup. His play has grown more selfish and lazy throughout the years.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Bingo. Even if McDavid played here, they'd still be overshadowed by 4 other teams and he'd get no more attention than say one of the mid level stars on the Dodgers. LA just isn't a hockey media mecca for superstar players other than Gretzky, but even that faded. Build a good team, have solid playoff results. and the rest will follow.

That was also a VERY specific situation during a very specific moment in history.

You can't replicate it because it already happened.

You can tell me that Oasis is better than Beatles but even tho you're clearly wrong it wouldn't matter anyway because the British Invasion already happened.

Man already walked on the moon. Michael Jackson already moonwalked. Gretzky to LA already coincided with the mass Southern Expansion.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Brown gave up the C

lol

 

[King'sPawn]

If Hiller is back as HC and Yannetti is back as head-scout over Holland's boy, well it might tell you Czar Luc is still making all the calls.

I would expect Ty Wright to be the Kings lead scout starting next season, if Holland has the authority to make that call.

So you know what is going to happen? Yannetti to Tampa and he suddenly starts hitting home-runs every year like Al Murray.

I have a different prediction/feeling, but certainly not feeling strongly enough to put money on it (though I'm not a betting man anyway):
- Holland's going to meet with the scouts next week (something else mentioned on the podcast). So I have a feeling he's going to evaluate how Yannetti runs things. If he likes it, he'll keep him. If not, he'll bring in Tyler Wright in some diminished capacity at first with the long-term plan to replace him.
- I'm guessing he's dead set in bringing in Brad Holland, his son, as his long-term replacement. With Brad's experience in hockey operations, he is more qualified to be an assistant GM and thus the hope is he'll be the successor.

The reason why I'm not reading too much into Yannetti having his position still is it's EXTREMELY risky to have a scouting staff shakeup a month before the draft. The scouts are in place, and they've been working all year.

What I'm very interested in seeing is how Yannetti runs the draft. He's always worked under the direction of Lombardi and Blake (who, even though he became GM shortly before the draft, Blake wasn't an outsider like Holland).

It could play out differently for certain, but my ideal scenario is:
- Yannetti director of anateur scouting (stays in his role)
- Brad Holland replacing Nelson Emerson as assistant GM
- Tyler Wright replacing Murray as Director in Player Development

I know I'm biased, but I'm a huge Yannetti fan, and given their hits when they had Lombardi providing direction, I think he's among the best out there.

I think we need to continue deviating from the slow boil process, because we saw what happened with a player like Laferriere.

 

[AbsentMojo]

lol

Cmon i know the story.. let me rephrase, DL forced Brown to hand over the C. My point is captain changes can happen without the guy retiring or being traded.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Cmon i know the story.. let me rephrase, DL forced Brown to hand over the C. My point is captain changes can happen without the guy retiring or being traded.

I'm pumped full of prednisone and having some sort of manic episode all day.

Everything I've said over the past 24 hours should disregarded even harder than anything else I've ever said.

 

[AbsentMojo]

I'm pumped full of prednisone and having some sort of manic episode all day.

Everything I've said over the past 24 hours should disregarded even harder than anything else I've ever said.

Hey - I got into big trouble at work sending an email while buzzed..something i never wouldve sent otherwise (called out my boss). So be careful! : )

 

[DoktorJeep]

kings are in win now mode. Holland is on a 2-3 year deal. He needs to get the team over the hump. The coaches and the roster are going to be mostly the same. We have no high end #1C or D.

This is looking like a fast train to a disaster

 

[kingsfan28]

That was also a VERY specific situation during a very specific moment in history.

You can't replicate it because it already happened.

You can tell me that Oasis is better than Beatles but even tho you're clearly wrong it wouldn't matter anyway because the British Invasion already happened.

Man already walked on the moon. Michael Jackson already moonwalked. Gretzky to LA already coincided with the mass Southern Expansion.

I hate those guys! Any band who proclaims they'll be bigger than the Beatles deserves to implode. First class wankers.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[KingsHockey24]

Well luckily it seems like he knows how well Gavrikov and Kuzmenko played.

Hopefully he gets them locked up.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Well luckily it seems like he knows how well Gavrikov and Kuzmenko played.

Hopefully he gets them locked up.

KH for HF LAK GM.. btw I 100% would take Clifford over Lewis for my 4th line nostalgic slot.

 

[Statto]

I'm pumped full of prednisone and having some sort of manic episode all day.

Everything I've said over the past 24 hours should disregarded even harder than anything else I've ever said.

Prednisone sucks. IV not too bad… the tablets are awful. I was on them for years.

Hope things are progressing well and that you’re feeling positive.

 

[Schmooley]

Wasnt thrilled about the hiring but willing to give him a while before I make judgements. Seems like a good guy that takes winning seriously.
Hes spoken to the media more in 2 days than Blake did his whole tenure so thats a nice change right off the bat.

 

[Statto]

I hate those guys! Any band who proclaims they'll be bigger than the Beatles deserves to implode. First class wankers.

True but they were phenomenal and very much of their moment.

That said I think the Beatles are so overrated. Don’t get me wrong some of their stuff was great but there was a lot of crap. I prefer Lennon’s solo stuff (McCartney’s sucks). Granted the Beatles are not my genre. I prefer Oasis but I would not consider them close to being greater (or bigger) as that’s a different thing.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Prednisone sucks... tablets are awful.

but why do they TASTE SO BAD

 

[Statto]

but why do they TASTE SO BAD

I learned to down the lot in one mouthful. They suck arse.

 

[FeartheFur]

Beatles are not bee rated? Jesus Christ

 

[bland]

True but they were phenomenal and very much of their moment.

That said I think the Beatles are so overrated. Don’t get me wrong some of their stuff was great but there was a lot of crap. I prefer Lennon’s solo stuff (McCartney’s sucks). Granted the Beatles are not my genre. I prefer Oasis but I would not consider them close to being greater (or bigger) as that’s a different thing.

I would legitimately rather listen to The Monkees than The Beatles.