HOH Top 60 Goaltenders of All Time (2024 Edition) - Round 2, Vote 4

[Dr John Carlson]

Procedure

• In this vote, you will be presented with 11 players based on their ranking in the Round 1 aggregate list
• Players will be listed in alphabetical order to avoid creating bias
• You will submit ten names in a ranked order, #1 through #10, without ties via PM to both @Dr John Carlson and @Professor What. That means one name out of these eleven will be left unranked on your ballot.
• Use the same private message thread every week rather than starting a new PM
• Results of this vote will be posted after each voting cycle, but the individual ballots themselves will remain secret until the completion of this project
• The top 5 players will be added to the final list (unless a very large break exists at the spot between 4&5 (or 3&4!), or the break between 5&6 is minimal)
• Lists of players eligible for voting will grow as the project continues
• Voting threads will continue until we have added 60 names to the list, for a total of 12 voting threads

Eligible Voters

• Ballots from voters who have submitted an approved Round 1 ranking of 80 goaltenders (which was used to shape the aggregate list) will have their votes tabulated in the final ranking
• These voters are: @nabby12, @overpass, @frisco, @Professor What, @DN28, @jigglysquishy, @tony d, @rmartin65, @Vilica, @bobholly39, @The Pale King, @blogofmike, @Dr John Carlson, @MXD, @Michael Farkas, @ContrarianGoaltender, @VanIslander, @seventieslord, @Weztex

Guidelines

• Respect each other. No horseplay or sophistry!
• Please refrain from excessive use of the 'laughing' reaction to indicate disagreement
• Stay on topic and don't get caught up in talking about non-eligible players
• Participate, but retain an open mind throughout the discussion
• Do not speculate who cast any particular ballot. Do not make judgments about the mindset of whoever cast that particular ballot. All individual ballots will be revealed at the end of the project
• Anybody may participate in the discussion, whether they submitted a list or not

House Rules

• Any attempts to derail a discussion thread with disrespect to old-time hockey will be met with frontier justice
• Take a drink when someone mentions the number of hockey registrations in a given era
• Finish your drink when someone mentions that wins are a team stat

The actual voting period will open up on Friday, November 1st at midnight and continue through Sunday, November 3rd at 11:59 PM Eastern time. I will release the results of the vote the morning of Monday, November 4th, at which point the next voting thread will begin.


Vote 3 Candidates

• Clint Benedict
• Johnny Bower
• Turk Broda
• Jiri Holecek
• Roberto Luongo
• Bernie Parent
• Carey Price
• Billy Smith
• Tiny Thompson
• Andrei Vasilevskiy
• Roy Worters

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[bobholly39]

Very happy to see Carey Price up. I'd have loved to have seen all 3 of Price, Vasi and Lundqvist at the same time, but oh well.

I didn't get a chance to comment much last round - but I just wanted to say for Vasi, I find it incredibly hard to rate him because he's still in the midst of his career, and seems to be slowing down, and I don't know what that means yet.

Everything up to the 2021 finals is great.

His 2022 season - very good, but less so than the previous 4. Good playoffs
His 2023 season - again, decent, but not as good as that previous 4 year stretch. Disappointing playoffs
His 2024 season & playoffs - both disappointing

10 years from now - is Vasi going to a goalie who hit a sharp decline at barely age ~27, and never got it back? That's really young for a modern guy. Or is he about to bounce back, and have another ~5-7 years as a very good #1 goalie in the league, and maybe even win more accolades/remain elite?

It's hard for me to decide how high to rank him all-time, or how he compares to others, without that extra perspective.

 

[bobholly39]

Administrative question.

How are we deciding how many names are available each round? It seems like it's been pretty low in project so far. I think we started with 8, then 10, and now 11 twice. I feel as though past projects had closer to ~15 names some rounds.

Is the idea to keep it at ~10-11 the whole projec? Or go up to ~15 past a certain rank? Or is each round tabulated differently depending on how close the upcoming guys are?

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Administrative question.

How are we deciding how many names are available each round? It seems like it's been pretty low in project so far. I think we started with 8, then 10, and now 11 twice. I feel as though past projects had closer to ~15 names some rounds.

Is the idea to keep it at ~10-11 the whole projec? Or go up to ~15 past a certain rank? Or is each round tabulated differently depending on how close the upcoming guys are?

Thanks for clarifying.

The number will steadily grow. By the end of the project, I'd imagine we will be seeing about 15 names up at once.

We don't want to flood the voting with names and let guys get lost in the shuffle, though.