HOH Top 60 Goaltenders of All Time (2024 Edition) - Round 2, Vote 2

[Dr John Carlson]

Procedure

• In this vote, you will be presented with 9 players based on their ranking in the Round 1 aggregate list
• Players will be listed in alphabetical order to avoid creating bias
• You will submit eight names in a ranked order, #1 through #9, without ties via PM to both @Dr John Carlson and @Professor What
• Use the same private message thread every week rather than starting a new PM
• Results of this vote will be posted after each voting cycle, but the individual ballots themselves will remain secret until the completion of this project
• The top 5 players will be added to the final list (unless a very large break exists at the spot between 4&5, or the break between 5&6 is minimal)
• Lists of players eligible for voting will grow as the project continues
• Voting threads will continue until we have added 60 names to the list, for a total of 12 voting threads

Eligible Voters

• Ballots from voters who have submitted an approved Round 1 ranking of 80 goaltenders (which was used to shape the aggregate list) will have their votes tabulated in the final ranking
• These voters are: @nabby12, @overpass, @frisco, @Professor What, @DN28, @jigglysquishy, @tony d, @rmartin65, @Vilica, @bobholly39, @The Pale King, @blogofmike, @Dr John Carlson, @MXD, @Michael Farkas, @ContrarianGoaltender, @VanIslander, @seventieslord, @Weztex

Guidelines

• Respect each other. No horseplay or sophistry!
• Please refrain from excessive use of the 'laughing' reaction to indicate disagreement
• Stay on topic and don't get caught up in talking about non-eligible players
• Participate, but retain an open mind throughout the discussion
• Do not speculate who cast any particular ballot. Do not make judgments about the mindset of whoever cast that particular ballot. All individual ballots will be revealed at the end of the project
• Anybody may participate in the discussion, whether they submitted a list or not

House Rules

• Any attempts to derail a discussion thread with disrespect to old-time hockey will be met with frontier justice
• Take a drink when someone mentions the number of hockey registrations in a given era
• Finish your drink when someone mentions that wins are a team stat

The actual voting period will open up on Friday, October 18th at midnight and continue through Sunday, October 20th at 11:59 PM Eastern time. I will release the results of the vote the morning of Monday, October 21s, at which point the next voting thread will begin.


Vote 2 Candidates

• Ed Belfour
• Clint Benedict
• Frank Brimsek
• Turk Broda
• Ken Dryden
• Bill Durnan
• Charlie Gardiner
• Vladislav Tretiak
• Georges Vezina

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[Dr John Carlson]

We're going old this round!

Lots of research has been done on Vezina/Benedict since the last project, so we should be able to hammer out a good positioning for them.

The 2012 edition of the project had a gap between Brimsek and Broda/Durnan. I think there ought to be a gap between the three, but not there - I'd have Broda separated below Brimsek/Durnan, and I think there are others who feel the same. I'll have lots on Durnan's amateur career which will come later in the week.

Ken Dryden was a very clear 8th last round. I wonder if one of the new guys could jump over him this round. Will be interesting to hear those arguments.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Coming in...

Tretiak
[gap]
Belfour
Brimsek
Dryden
Durnan
[gap]
The rest...

That's very unpopular and honestly, I didn't think that all of these names would come up now...so soon. But here we are...

I don't think the position itself evolves anywhere close to the same rate as the rest of the league and I don't think, effectively, anyone that played the position should get full or near-full freight (unless they played from like 1974 to 1986...screw those guys, they must have been bad, look at the numbers...sonk.)

I'll be back, unfortunately...