TBLFan, I cannot stand these guys. I asked if they carried a size XXL in some pants, and the response I got was "why are ya playing ice ya fattie." I like my pants a little looser and wear a 38 inch waist so XXL is the size I get (especially with more slimmer cut brands like Mission, RBK< and NikeBauer) So I say screw those guys,plus I heard the actual retail store is kind of lame