Hockey culture (impact on business)
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MeHateHe
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They better be careful. That's the kind of thing that leads to rainbow tape and special jerseys.
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MeHateHe
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"Smugness" is an interesting choice of words given that you just wrote off the entire body of work by a reasonably prolific hockey writer. It's entirely possible to disagree with someone without saying everything they say is utterly without basis.
In fact, her contribution to what the PA posted was actually pretty anodyne, and your response was to dismiss the issue out of hand. If you don't see how that is a Giant. Red. Flashing. Light supporting what was the point of the PA's post - and her mild addition to that post - then I'm afraid I can't help you.
Bonk
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Have you ever looked at her Twitter account?
Did you see where she bragged about having a discussion with a couple that were very nice to her and then when they had a disagreement at the end of their chat she said they have every right to be effing idiots?
Male or female, when you act like a jackass you lose any credibility to your cause. Even if it's a worthy one, with more deserving women getting into the field. That was my point.
And how is this Business of Hockey again?
Did you see where she bragged about having a discussion with a couple that were very nice to her and then when they had a disagreement at the end of their chat she said they have every right to be effing idiots?
Male or female, when you act like a jackass you lose any credibility to your cause. Even if it's a worthy one, with more deserving women getting into the field. That was my point.
And how is this Business of Hockey again?
dj4aces
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One is free to feel how they wish about someone, but the NHLPA's message is clear, and your response gave the impression that the message is somehow tainted or dishonest simply because Sara QT'd it.
While that's perhaps not what you inteded, one could say the same of your interpretation of her story that you gave as a reason for not liking her, or for any number of people who've said something that was taken out of context or taken in a serious manner that wasn't intended to be serious at all. I'm sure we've all done it. I know I've been on both sides of that before.
MMC
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I don’t take Sara seriously because she’s an asshole who cares more about being a shit disturber than a professional, me agreeing or disagreeing with what she says would do nothing to change that assessment for me. And that is clearly the brand she wants for herself so I have no problem with considering her as such
MeHateHe
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On the one hand, we hear people all over these boards complaining that hockey players and commenters are boring and have no personality, and on the other, we have someone who's trying to be provocative and she's being verbally slapped down. Is she more or less of an asshole than Paul Bissonette? Keith Tkachuk?
But back to the actual topic at hand - and I'll take my share of the blame for dragging this off topic - the original tweet referencing the NHLPA's attempt to highlight the shit attitudes people show towards women who have the temerity to be interested in hockey. This being the business forum, I'll just remind everyone that this sounds like a diversity initiative (how terrible are those these days?) but it's just marketing. More than half the population is female, and so the smart business move is to make those women feel like they are welcome to be part of the fanbase. Dunno about anyone else but I don't like to spend my money in places where there are a bunch of people telling me I don't belong.
And yeah, you have to be blind to not see the irony that one of the first responses in this thread was not commenting on the actual issue at hand, but to slag off the woman who tweeted it. Hockey is for everyone, so long as you have a Y chromosome.
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MMC
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Her gender has nothing to do with how I feel about her and I find Bissonette equally obnoxious
Bonk
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Wow, I agreed with a lot of your first two paragraphs and was thinking about an olive branch-style reply and I read the third one, where you play the sexist card. My wife who has worked in hockey for over 30 years got a chuckle out of that.
My response was because the OP didn't post the NHLPA clip, it was her re-post which included her tired pot-stirring rhetoric. Being a professional agitator isn't exclusively a male or female thing.
No victimizing to see here.
MeHateHe
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And? The issue raised was the NHLPA's attempt at outreach to women. Does it matter if Jimi Hendrix or Jesus Christ posts it? Does the person posting a message have to have a purity rating before one takes seriously the issue that has been raised?
The most generous interpretation of your first response on this thread is that you were trying to diminish the importance of the issue because someone you don't like had expressed an opinion on it. From the standpoint of this sub-thread, that's foolish. Businesses that ignore the genuine concerns of a large swath of the potential marketplace (women) are missing their potential. If a vendor finds that potential customers are unhappy about their product or the conditions surrounding their product, the vendor are well within their rights to just be unhappy about that unhappiness, or they can try to rectify the problem. The NHLPA clearly is trying to rectify the problem. Why does it matter that it was Sara Civian who posted about it?
Bonk
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I should've started by stating that the NHLPA post is solid. We all agree on that, right? Like I said, I largely agree with your posts.
But her drivel was the first thing I saw when I clicked on the post, so I commented on that first. I'll leave it there.
If my calling out a professional crap-stirrer makes me a sexist in your eyes, I can live with that. Based on your posts, I'm guessing you already think most men are anyway.
But her drivel was the first thing I saw when I clicked on the post, so I commented on that first. I'll leave it there.
If my calling out a professional crap-stirrer makes me a sexist in your eyes, I can live with that. Based on your posts, I'm guessing you already think most men are anyway.
