Hockey Canada Scandal and Rape Trial

She was also older than all of them. You might be right but how is that the guys faults if she smiles and pleads the whole time to engage in these acts with them?
Age has nothing to do with it. Richard Ramirez was raping senior citizens. There are a lot of scenarios that could have played out. The possibilities are almost endless. Do you consider it rape if a stranger grabbed a woman by the wrist and led her away but the woman didn’t speak up and say no because she was afraid?
 
I dont know about this case, but in Sweden there has been rampant charges of women claiming rape and
change of heart and young guys lifes ruined cause of not doubting female stories and
taking their word as gospel, to the point that i by default does not belive women.
It has to go back to solid evidense.
 
nah your wearing the cape saying that a rape took pace and callin players rapists even when you dont actually know
What exactly do you think "so, you don't believe in trials?" means? Pretty sure the person is advocating to let the case be adjudicated instead of jumping to conclusions based off of a small portion of an opening statement.
 
I dont know about this case, but in Sweden there has been rampant charges of women claiming rape and
change of heart and young guys lifes ruined cause of not doubting female stories and
taking their word as gospel, to the point that i by default does not belive women.
It has to go back to solid evidense.
Solid evidence? I guess we can call on god as a witness so he can tell us exactly what happened in these cases and then you can have your solid evidence to believe women again
 
Regardless of how it comes out, none of these guys should ever play in the NHL again.

Imo, you hold yourselves to a higher standard, even Moreso if you're going Pro, if for any other reason. Any single thing can end your career and even worse, kill your reputation, which will follow you and your descendants. Don't fall for the bait. And if it turns out this woman is lying and really was begging them or whatever she was doing, I don't even blame him for anything, this is entirely on them for making the decisions they made and again, the same thing goes; WALK AWAY. DO NOT FALL FOR THE BAIT.

It's that simple. Don't be scum.
That’s a pretty gross take if this.
 
Solid evidence? I guess we can call on god as a witness so he can tell us exactly what happened in these cases and then you can have your solid evidence to believe women again
So taking someones word is solid evidence?
Cant you see the problem?

39% are judged on words alone - surprising facts about the law of consent

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Ya, ok there Champ. Most of Western Europe's rape sentences have turned into a joke as well if you paid any attention to what's going on over there..
Wow, no reason to be a dick.

Canada has up to from 10 years to life sentences for Sexual Assault. You may not think it's enough but it's in line with the majority of the developed world, including most US states. Singling out Canada is unwarranted.

Bringing up news paper articles of singular cases is really just anecdotal.

In my opinion it's not the punishment or the courts that are the problem, it's the Police and the Crown Attorneys. Not bringing cases fast enough or often enough.

The evidence is clear, severity of punishment is not what deters crime but rather the probability of facing justice.

I'm fine with 10 years to life being the maximum sentences and I don't like significant mandatory minimums. It's clearly those who are prosecuting and investigating these crimes that are failing.
 
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Well I have not passed any Canadian legal classes, I have passed many in the US.

If you're (that's the spelling you were looking for bud) a shitbag, it doesn't preclude you from filing a suit.

But I would hope the Canadian legal system would allow someone who has been defamed publicly and in a court of law some sort of financial recourse. If found innocent and the accuser is proven to have been not truthful, then that would mean you're generally not a shitbag.

Once someone's name is cleared, I would encourage to file suit. To your main point though, as stated above, in general filing a lawsuit doesn't require someone to be saint. You'd be shocked how many people of immoral and unethical ilk file lawsuits.
What legal classes in the US did you pass if you think a defendant is "found innocent"?
 
Age has nothing to do with it. Richard Ramirez was raping senior citizens. There are a lot of scenarios that could have played out. The possibilities are almost endless. Do you consider it rape if a stranger grabbed a woman by the wrist and led her away but the woman didn’t speak up and say no because she was afraid?
Yes. In Canada sexual consent must be active.

So in your scenario, unless the woman actively give consent it is sexual assault.
 
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When a woman is smiling along, begging men to perform sex acts on them, not physically trying to stop them in any way shape or form, smiling and saying it's all consensual on video, and then leaving...at what point do you admit the players did nothing wrong? She made no complaint and was consistently asking them to have sex with her that night.

She might not be at fault, but how are they? When you make no effort to put a stop to something....

Not physically trying to stop 5-10 professional male athletes? Are you serious?
 
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Stupid response, not worth commenting
I mean you already commented but what is stupid about it?
You said you don't believe women. The logical conclusion is that even if a close family member of yours confided in you that they were raped you would not believe them.
 
I mean you already commented but what is stupid about it?
You said you don't believe women. The logical conclusion is that even if a close family member of yours confided in you that they were raped you would not believe them.
I didnt say a did not belive women, i said my default was to be very sceptical, see the differnce?
 

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