Hischier V Rasmussen

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zharkenby

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I mean I'm not implying anything further. But this guy thinks Hischer's rookie season was better, the numbers say otherwise.

And I would argue RNH has had much better seasons recently, even if they aren't showing huge improvement on the scoresheet. But thats another topic honestly.

[mod] What numbers? Ppg? Do some research man. Jesus Christ.

I’ll leave out some other numbers... because again it was all explained in the other thread. RNH played the first power play and racked up 23 PP points. Nico did not play the power play. Again, it’s really easy to look at just goals and assists for people who don’t actually understand hockey.
 
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Looks at thread title, looks at author... "Who the f*** is zharkenby, and why does he hate Wings fans?"
 

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I'm sure the Devils are really upset they picked Hischier over Rasmussen after seeing what a big boy he's become.
 
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Nah you guys are cool, just proving one of your fans whose an alleged scout wrong.
EDIT: nm just saw who you @'d in the OP.

Anyway who cares. Spite polls are not the way to go about it.
2 off seasons ago I started a spite poll, who's the better goalie Petr Mrazek or Freddy Anderson and Mrazek won by a landslide. Who had the last laugh in that one?
 
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You are actually clueless. What numbers? Ppg? Do some research man. Jesus Christ.

I’ll leave out some other numbers... because again it was all explained in the other thread. RNH played the first power play and racked up 23 PP points. Nico did not play the power play. Again, it’s really easy to look at just goals and assists for people who don’t actually understand hockey.
Okay. Hischer had better even strength production. And its safe to assume that if Hischer was given PP time, he would have replicated RNH's production, since all players are stars at the PP.

So Draisaitl and 17 others this season over Hall since PP production isn't worth anything right?

What research do you want me to do? To dive in your fantasyland were numbers are worth nothing and the devils players are always better in direct comparisons?

Edit: I don't know how you can say with a straight face, how you can compare 2 players, and say the one with a 8 more even strength points is more valuable than the one with 25 more power play points. Even strength points are 3x times more valuable than PP points in your book?

Not to mention RNH's goalscoring was better at even strength. He paced for 20 even strength goals. 69 points, with 38 coming at evens. So 31 on the PP.

Hischer had 19 even strength goals, 52 points, with 46 coming at evens. Thus the 6 on the PP.

RNH's offensive rookie stat line is more impressive than Hischier's.
When you consider other factors like his team, line mates, and age, it tilts the scale even further in his direction.
 
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zharkenby

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Okay. Hischer had better even strength production. And its safe to assume that if Hischer was given PP time, he would have replicated RNH's production, since all players are stars at the PP.

So Draisaitl and 17 others this season over Hall since PP production isn't worth anything right?

What research do you want me to do? To dive in your fantasyland were numbers are worth nothing and the devils players are always better in direct comparisons?

Edit: I don't know how you can say with a straight face, how you can compare 2 players, and say the one with a 8 more even strength points is more valuable than the one with 25 more power play points. Even strength points are 3x times more valuable than PP points in your book?

Not to mention RNH's goalscoring was better at even strength. He paced for 20 even strength goals. 69 points, with 38 coming at evens. So 31 on the PP.

Hischer had 19 even strength goals, 52 points, with 46 coming at evens. Thus the 6 on the PP.

RNH's offensive rookie stat line is more impressive than Hischier's.
When you consider other factors like his team, line mates, and age, it tilts the scale even further in his direction.

See bolded, stop contradicting yourself. Also linemates? Correct me if I’m wrong they both played with Taylor Hall no?
 

The Moose is Loose

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See bolded, stop contradicting yourself. Also linemates? Correct me if I’m wrong they both played with Taylor Hall no?
Yeah. Hischier had more time with Hall than RNH did, and RNH played with 50-60 point Hall. Versus 90+ point version of Hall.
Quite different

Also very nice of you to ignore all the points I made, focus on one little part, but still be wrong on that part.
 

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I mean I'm not implying anything further. But this guy thinks Hischer's rookie season was better, the numbers say otherwise.

And I would argue RNH has had much better seasons recently, even if they aren't showing huge improvement on the scoresheet. But thats another topic honestly.

You've clearly never watched Nico play because he did all the little things right all season. Yes, there were games when he was outmatched (he's not really a true 1C yet and is playing a bit over his head), but if he were allowed to run around like a headless chicken and not play defense like a Boeser (or even Barzal to some extent) he'd have easily put up more points and this wouldn't even be a thread because the stat-watchers like you would be like oooh, aaaaaah, big pooooints, Hischier so gooooood, maaaakes biiiiiig pooooooints.
 

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Devils fans have been getting bodied a lot this year. Their whole fanbase disappeared from the main/playoff forum once the Devils were eliminated. I expect the OP wont show up anymore in this thread.

Ahh, yes, sweeping generalizations.

This past season was one of the most fun for Devils fans in a long time. I don't think anyone was "bodied."
 

zharkenby

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Yeah. Hischier had more time with Hall than RNH did, and RNH played with 50-60 point Hall. Versus 90+ point version of Hall.
Quite different

Also very nice of you to ignore all the points I made, focus on one little part, but still be wrong on that part.
That’s the thing, when you say you can’t use something in an argument (fantasy land I believe you called it?) and then go on to do the same exact thing, you don’t deserve a response. I’m going to have fun bumping some of these posts in the near future my guy. Enjoy your night :)
 

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That’s the thing, when you say you can’t use something in an argument (fantasy land I believe you called it?) and then go on to do the same exact thing, you don’t deserve a response. I’m going to have fun bumping some of these posts in the near future my guy. Enjoy your night :)
You always claim I do things and provide no evidence. But I don’t blame you for cutting your loses

Peace
 
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