OT: HFPens Community Lounge: Everyone was forced outside to touch real grass during the HF crash of 2025 edition

[plaidchuck]

I do like the idea of original unconnected stories, but we don't seem to be getting them. Mando was that until it wasn't, and I do agree it is worse for it. So in theory I agree. But really it's just that so much of it isn't very good that hurts it for me.

IMO the three best SW things to come out since the originals all fall in that category: Clone Wars, Rogue One, and Andor. A prequel we didn't need with a prequel series, and a cartoon that fills the gap between two prequels.

Also I will say my favorite thing about Rogue One after just rewatching it is just how ridiculous it makes Leia acting like she's just on some senate diplomacy mission in the original movie

I gotta be the only person that didn't like Rogue One. It was billed to be a gritty take on a star wars subplot, but it was mostly leads traveling back and forth that I didn't care about since I knew they would die. Plus the villain was just some dude getting yelled at by his bosses until he gets blown up. Then we have some fan service shoehorned in of Vader being bad ass and taking out an entire ship (even though he for some reason needed Stormtroopers to attack Leia's ship in the first movie). But I'm not the best judge on any of the new stuff, since all I've seen is about an hour of the Force Awakens and Rogue One.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I gotta be the only person that didn't like Rogue One. It was billed to be a gritty take on a star wars subplot, but it was mostly leads traveling back and forth that I didn't care about since I knew they would die. Plus the villain was just some dude getting yelled at by his bosses until he gets blown up. Then we have some fan service shoehorned in of Vader being bad ass and taking out an entire ship (even though he for some reason needed Stormtroopers to attack Leia's ship in the first movie). But I'm not the best judge on any of the new stuff, since all I've seen is about an hour of the Force Awakens and Rogue One.

if you don't like the Vader scene in that then I don't know what to say, it's great

Rogue one is certainly flawed, but we don't seem to agree what those flaws are The "I don't care about them because I know they die" thing is an opinion I see a lot in all sorts of things not just Rogue One, and I just don't agree with it as a criticism.

Also to be clear, to be the 3rd best Star Wars thing since the originals isn't me calling it great. It's a pretty low bar. I'd say Andor is the only one I can't point at some pretty glaringly bad aspect of.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Rogue 1 was great for the Disney Star Wars era. I liked how Andor tied things up too.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Rogue One I liked.

Andor I just can't get into, I tried again and while I can see they're really going for it with the serious tones and depth, it just feels boring and too little too late for a show that always had a finite amount of time because of the movie and what not.

The rest of the shows they made, if you edited together all the best parts that make sense and are actually worth watching, most of their shows are maybe worth 4-5 episodes of giving a shit. Mando was notorious for that, they jerked you around for 80% of the season with some fun moments, then the last 2 episodes they would give you the meat and then make you wait forever for another repeat of that same shit. I was so hyped for Ahsoka, then I saw it and was like yeah f*** you Disney, you've wasted enough of my time.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Rogue One I liked.

Andor I just can't get into, I tried again and while I can see they're really going for it with the serious tones and depth, it just feels boring and too little too late for a show that always had a finite amount of time because of the movie and what not.

The rest of the shows they made, if you edited together all the best parts that make sense and are actually worth watching, most of their shows are maybe worth 4-5 episodes of giving a shit. Mando was notorious for that, they jerked you around for 80% of the season with some fun moments, then the last 2 episodes they would give you the meat and then make you wait forever for another repeat of that same shit. I was so hyped for Ahsoka, then I saw it and was like yeah f*** you Disney, you've wasted enough of my time.

Nah the random f***ing about episodes were the best parts of Mando imo.

I think you’d like Andor more as it goes, it picks up the pace for sure.

 

[Zirakzigil]

The last few episodes of Andor were nuts

 

[Pens1566]

Andor seems slow/boring because it's not all space battles and lightsaber duels. In fact, hardly any of it falls into those categories. It's all plotting and sneaking around and spy tradecraft.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Andor seems slow/boring because it's not all space battles and lightsaber duels. In fact, hardly any of it falls into those categories. It's all plotting and sneaking around and spy tradecraft.

I think it was originally going to be run/produced by the people that did The Americans on FX. Still shares some of those people if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I think it was originally going to be run/produced by the people that did The Americans on FX. Still shares some of those people if I'm not mistaken.

now there's a show that you could argue is 10/10

 

[HandshakeLine]

The Americans is the Wire of the previous decade.

 

[plaidchuck]

How about The Penguin. It was alright, surprisingly good but The Sopranos comparisons to it were silly though.

 

[Ogrezilla]

The Americans is the Wire of the previous decade.

The Wire is probably my favorite series overall, at least if not counting miniseries. Band of Brothers is hard to top but feels like cheating.

How about The Penguin. It was alright, surprisingly good but The Sopranos comparisons to it were silly though.

Loved the Penguin but it's certainly no Sopranos. It's not trying to be either though; just an odd comparison.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I feel like there is a not-insignificant amount of people out there that compares EVERYTHING to the Sopranos.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

This show I'm watching right now is like the Sopranos. Steve Buscemi just showed up. And James Gandolfini is his cousin.

 

[plaidchuck]

This show I'm watching right now is like the Sopranos. Steve Buscemi just showed up. And James Gandolfini is his cousin.

I saw the same, Paul Vincent also showed up and said something about being in jail

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Nah the random f***ing about episodes were the best parts of Mando imo.

I mean the random tangents they went on that were fun? Sure, but the filler episodes just felt like they had way too many and then knowing that f***ing wanker Pedro wasn't even there for most of that show and just sitting on his couch on speaker reading his damn lines kind of annoyed me, lol.

I think you’d like Andor more as it goes, it picks up the pace for sure.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

This show I'm watching right now is like the Sopranos. Steve Buscemi just showed up. And James Gandolfini is his cousin.

You tit, that is the Sopranos.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I mean the random tangents they went on that were fun? Sure, but the filler episodes just felt like they had way too many and then knowing that f***ing wanker Pedro wasn't even there for most of that show and just sitting on his couch on speaker reading his damn lines kind of annoyed me, lol.

I like a nice mission of the week kind of show sometimes.


How far into Andor did you get? I’d say if you got through 6 and thought it was boring you likely won’t change your mind? 6, 10, and 12 of s1 are certainly more exciting.

S2 starts off just fine but it’s the back half that really makes people walk away calling it a 10/10.

I’m not promising you’ll like it because you hate everything, but it’s certainly not boring by that point.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I mean the random tangents they went on that were fun? Sure, but the filler episodes just felt like they had way too many and then knowing that f***ing wanker Pedro wasn't even there for most of that show and just sitting on his couch on speaker reading his damn lines kind of annoyed me, lol.

I like a nice mission of the week kind of show sometimes.


How far into Andor did you get? I’d say if you got through 6 and thought it was boring you likely won’t change your mind? 6, 10, and 12 of s1 are certainly more exciting.

S2 starts off just fine but it’s the back half that really makes people walk away calling it a 10/10. There certainly are some chunks between what I’ve listed that feel closer to filler, at least for Andor himself while other stories keep moving.

 

[Gurglesons]

Finally finished The Rehearsal. f***ing insanity.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Finally finished The Rehearsal. f***ing insanity.

I've only watched, maybe, the first two seasons of Nathan For You. How does this compare?

 

[Gurglesons]

I like a nice mission of the week kind of show sometimes.


How far into Andor did you get? I’d say if you got through 6 and thought it was boring you likely won’t change your mind? 6, 10, and 12 of s1 are certainly more exciting.

S2 starts off just fine but it’s the back half that really makes people walk away calling it a 10/10. There certainly are some chunks between what I’ve listed that feel closer to filler, at least for Andor himself while other stories keep moving.

I thought S2 was too high on it's own supply.

Felt like a video game to be honest.

 

[Gurglesons]

I've only watched, maybe, the first two seasons of Nathan For You. How does this compare?

Not sure I can even explain the show. But it's basically Nathan for You with HBO's budget and Nathan going even further into his insanity and awkwardness.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I thought S2 was too high on it's own supply.

Felt like a video game to be honest.

I disagree. I mean aside from being about a guy sent to do missions I guess.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Duster and Murderbot are fun.