HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects Ranking #19 (closed)

[amnesiac]

TOP 50 PROSPECTS


Criteria is 22 and under, 30 NHL GP or less, no goalies

1. Macklin Celebrini - C		18. Tij Iginla - C/W		35.
2. Matvei Michkov - RW		19.		36.
3. Ivan Demidov - RW		20.		37.
4. Will Smith - C		21.		38.
5. Alexander Nikishin - D		22.		39.
6. Cutter Gauthier - C		23.		40.
7. Artyom Levshunov - D		24.		41.
8. Cayden Lindstrom - C/W		25.		42.
9. Ryan Leonard - LW		26.		43.
10. Simon Edvinsson - D		27.		44.
11. Zeev Buium - D		28.		45.
12. Brandt Clarke - D		29.		46.
13. Danila Yurov - C/W		30.		47.
14. Lane Hutson - D		31.		48.
15. Shane Wright - C		32.		49.
16. Beckett Sennecke - RW		33.		50.
17. Anton Silayev - D		34.

To add:
Mavrik Bourque - C
Jimmy Snuggerud - RW
Quintin Musty - LW
Oliver Bonk - D
Michael Brandsegg-Nygard - RW
Tom Willander - D
Oliver Moore - C
Matthew Wood - RW
Bradly Nadeau - LW
Tanner Molendyk - D
Adam Jiricek - D
Noah Oslund - C
Marco Kasper - C
Joakim Kemell - RW
Joshua Roy - RW
Colby Barlow - LW
Daniil But - LW
Tristan Luneau - D
Frank Nazar - C
Carson Rehkopf - C
Logan Mailloux - D
Andrew Cristall - LW
Michael Hage - C
Sacha Boisvert - C
Liam Greentree - LW
Brennan Othmann - LW
Jagger Firkus - RW
Riley Heidt - C/W
Liam Ohgren - LW
Ivan Miroshnichenko - LW
Scott Morrow - D
Josh Doan - RW
Theo Lindstein - D
Marat Khusnutdinov - C
Seamus Casey - D
Zachary Bolduc - C
Mackie Samoskevich - RW
Gavin Brindley - C



Past lists:
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects Ranking #50 (closed) (summer 23)
HFBoards Top 50 Prospects Ranking #50 FINAL (summer 22)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects Ranking #50 FINAL (summer 21)
HFBoards TOP 75 Prospects Ranking #75 (FINAL) (winter 20-21)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects (summer 19)
Top 50 Drafted Prospects 2018: #46 - #50 (summer 18)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects #48 (summer 17)

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[Longtime Local]

Mateychuk again.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Dickinson. He was ranked higher than 11 in the 2024 draft by a lot of people. Most people had him ranked above Sennecke.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Mateychuk again.

Can I ask what is the rational of mateychuk over zellweger?

Their 19 year old seasons were
Z:
80 points in 55 games
Playoffs 29 points in 14 games

Matey
75 points in 52 games
Playoffs 30 points in 20 games


Zellweger had 37 in 44 in ahl, and was an all star at that lvl…. Also 9 in 26 in nhl.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Dickinson. He was ranked higher than 11 in the 2024 draft by a lot of people. Most people had him ranked above Sennecke.

I actually think Dickinson should be in over zellweger/mateychuk…. But I thought Dickinson won last poll tbh.

Idk that prerank in this draft means much, because I feel like everyone and completely different drafts. A number of teams had sennecke as a top 5 player, and idk that he woulda been around past 8 if Anaheim didn’t take him… Dickinson went 11th and that’s reality 10 teams passed on him, I don’t think 10 teams were passing on sennecke

I think Dickinson is easily most complete dmen on the board and shoulda been above guys like Hutson /silayev

 

[amnesiac]

Dickinson. He was ranked higher than 11 in the 2024 draft by a lot of people. Most people had him ranked above Sennecke.

indeed.... this was a pre-draft consensus rank amongst 16 sources. Surprised to see Buium over Levshunov, but I do recall a few lists having Lev quite lower in the top 10.

But you can see from 3-10 the wAVG was 5.55-8.75.... practically a crapshoot

2024 Consensus NHL Draft Rankings

The 2024 NHL Entry Draft begins on Friday, and EOTP has been keeping track of most of the rankings to come out ahead of the draft. Some rankings have more correlation to how the draft will unfold than…

www.habseyesontheprize.com

I actually think Dickinson should be in over zellweger/mateychuk…. But I thought Dickinson won last poll tbh.

Idk that prerank in this draft means much, because I feel like everyone and completely different drafts. A number of teams had sennecke as a top 5 player, and idk that he woulda been around past 8 if Anaheim didn’t take him… Dickinson went 11th and that’s reality 10 teams passed on him, I don’t think 10 teams were passing on sennecke

I think Dickinson is easily most complete dmen on the board and shoulda been above guys like Hutson /silayev

if you made a mistake I can make a mental note of it

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

indeed.... this was a pre-draft consensus rank amongst 16 sources. Surprised to see Buium over Levshunov, but I do recall a few lists having Lev quite lower in the top 10.

2024 Consensus NHL Draft Rankings

The 2024 NHL Entry Draft begins on Friday, and EOTP has been keeping track of most of the rankings to come out ahead of the draft. Some rankings have more correlation to how the draft will unfold than…

www.habseyesontheprize.com

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if you made a mistake I can make a mental note of it

Ya you can give my vote to Dickinson if it’s close, it was early and I assumed Dickinson already won lol

 

[Juxtaposer]

I actually think Dickinson should be in over zellweger/mateychuk…. But I thought Dickinson won last poll tbh.

Idk that prerank in this draft means much, because I feel like everyone and completely different drafts. A number of teams had sennecke as a top 5 player, and idk that he woulda been around past 8 if Anaheim didn’t take him… Dickinson went 11th and that’s reality 10 teams passed on him, I don’t think 10 teams were passing on sennecke

I think Dickinson is easily most complete dmen on the board and shoulda been above guys like Hutson /silayev

Actual NHL draft order isn’t meaningless but it shouldn’t completely upend the consensus from before the draft IMO.

Nine teams passed on Dickinson… but nine teams also passed on Silayev and he just got voted in. Eleven teams passed on Buium and he got voted in. I had Dickinson 7th on my pre-draft list and Sennecke 8th—just because Anaheim selected him 3rd doesn’t mean he’s done anything to change how I had them ranked. Iginla and Yakemchuk were also selected before Dickinson despite being behind him on my personal list.

 

[shaner8989]

Dickson

Add Doan

 

[dgibb10]

Sammy D

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Actual NHL draft order isn’t meaningless but it shouldn’t completely upend the consensus from before the draft IMO.

Nine teams passed on Dickinson… but nine teams also passed on Silayev and he just got voted in. Eleven teams passed on Buium and he got voted in. I had Dickinson 7th on my pre-draft list and Sennecke 8th—just because Anaheim selected him 3rd doesn’t mean he’s done anything to change how I had them ranked. Iginla and Yakemchuk were also selected before Dickinson despite being behind him on my personal list.

Well you won’t find argument from me on Dickinson/silayev…. I’d prefer Dickinson.

My point was more that the prerank drafts were all over the place…. Some teams had guys in top 5 while other teams had same guy 10+. A guy like buium went 13th, but for me he ends up top dmen in draft

 

[amnesiac]

Well you won’t find argument from me on Dickinson/silayev…. I’d prefer Dickinson.

My point was more that the prerank drafts were all over the place…. Some teams had guys in top 5 while other teams had same guy 10+. A guy like buium went 13th, but for me he ends up top dmen in draft

its why I think we'll see a slew of 2024 picks coming here after 3 in a row already

In my above post (consensus rankings from 16 sources) you can see from Buium to Silayev (8 players), their average ranking was only separated by 3 spots (5.55-8.75)

 

[Jared Dunn]

Dickinson, Reinbacher, then either of Zellweger/Mateychuk

 

[Canadienna]

Catton
Parekh
Zellweger
Dickinson
Reinbacher

 

[Bounces R Way]

Going to go with the CHL defender of the year who holds the record for goals as a 16 year old and is only the 2nd defenseman in OHL history to score 30+ in their draft season.

 

[majormajor]

It's easy for me to envision Mateychuk as a #2D in the NHL, or maybe even a Forsling type #1. I don't see that for Sam Dickinson, who lacks the creativity and deception. His playstyle most reminds me of Darnell Nurse. If he can be more a refined version of that then I still expect Dickinson to be a valuable player and I'd like to vote for him soon, but I think top pair outcomes are less likely for him.

Can I ask what is the rational of mateychuk over zellweger?

Their 19 year old seasons were
Z:
80 points in 55 games
Playoffs 29 points in 14 games

Matey
75 points in 52 games
Playoffs 30 points in 20 games


Zellweger had 37 in 44 in ahl, and was an all star at that lvl…. Also 9 in 26 in nhl.

Somewhat similar production and outstanding playdriving ability but for me they're not in the same category because of how different their physical builds are. Zellweger is small enough where I do wonder how long his career might be (same with Hutson). Mateychuk is built like a tank. He can win going shoulder to shoulder in the corners.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Sennecke, Silayev and Iginla all before Catton is wild

 

[Xirik]

It's easy for me to envision Mateychuk as a #2D in the NHL, or maybe even a Forsling type #1. I don't see that for Sam Dickinson, who lacks the creativity and deception. His playstyle most reminds me of Darnell Nurse. If he can be more a refined version of that then I still expect Dickinson to be a valuable player and I'd like to vote for him soon, but I think top pair outcomes are less likely for him.



Somewhat similar production and outstanding playdriving ability but for me they're not in the same category because of how different their physical builds are. Zellweger is small enough where I do wonder how long his career might be (same with Hutson). Mateychuk is built like a tank. He can win going shoulder to shoulder in the corners.

Dickinson gets the "Intangibles" vote. He's a winner and a leader and that's hard to vote against.

 

[Haatley]

Dickinson. He was ranked higher than 11 in the 2024 draft by a lot of people. Most people had him ranked above Sennecke.

And most had him below Parekh.

 

[Mr Kot]

Tempted to pick Eiserman tbh, but onyl because I still believe in the guy

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

Parekh. Add Snugger.

 

[Bouboumaster]

2023 5th overall David Reinbacher

 

[CanadienShark]

Any of Reinbacher, Dickinson, or Catton is good with me here. Voted Reinbacher.

And most had him below Parekh.

In what world was that?

 

[Haatley]

Any of Reinbacher, Dickinson, or Catton is good with me here. Voted Reinbacher.


In what world was that?

The real world
Go look for yourself. The consolidated draft rankings that took an average of all players had Parekh ahead. Many scouts had him ahead of Buium. Everyone will have him ranked well above Reinbacher.

2024 Consensus NHL Draft Rankings

The 2024 NHL Entry Draft begins on Friday, and EOTP has been keeping track of most of the rankings to come out ahead of the draft. Some rankings have more correlation to how the draft will unfold than…

www.habseyesontheprize.com

 

[CanadienShark]

The real world
Go look for yourself. The consolidated draft rankings that took an average of all players had Parekh ahead. Many scouts had him ahead of Buium. Everyone will have him ranked well above Reinbacher.

2024 Consensus NHL Draft Rankings

The 2024 NHL Entry Draft begins on Friday, and EOTP has been keeping track of most of the rankings to come out ahead of the draft. Some rankings have more correlation to how the draft will unfold than…

www.habseyesontheprize.com

All rankings were an absolute blender this year. There was no such consensus.